Driftwood Outdoors Podcast
By: Driftwood Outdoors Podcast
Language: en
Categories: Sports, Wilderness, Science, Earth
Join award-winning outdoor columnist Brandon Butler and renowned radio DJ Nathan "Shags" McLeod as they team up to bring you the ultimate Midwest outdoor adventure experience on the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast.Whether you're an avid hunter, passionate fisherman, or just love the great outdoors, this podcast is your go-to source for everything Midwest outdoor life. As the Midwest's outdoor authority, Driftwood Outdoors Podcast delivers a perfect blend of information and entertainment, covering topics like hunting, fishing, conservation, outdoor gear, and even a bit of fun with stories about Shags' Alien encounter!Every Tuesday morning, new episodes will take you on...
Episodes
Ep. 327: CWD in Missouri: Why MDC Paused the Culling
Jan 06, 2026Missouri Department of Conservation Director Jason Sumners joins Driftwood Outdoors for an in-depth conversation on chronic wasting disease, MDC’s decision to pause post-season targeted removal, and what comes next.
We ask the hard questions Missouri hunters and landowners are asking—what’s paused, why now, what replaces it, and what benchmarks could bring it back.
This is a long-form, transparent discussion about science, trust, and the future of deer hunting in Missouri.
For more info:
Missouri Dept of Conservation website
Missouri Dept of Conservation FB page
Missouri Dept of Conser...
Ep. 326: Weddings, Wild Places & What’s Next: Driftwood Outdoors 2025 Recap
Dec 30, 2025Driftwood Outdoors' Unpaid Pro-Staffer Paddle Don joins Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod to look back on a huge year for Driftwood Outdoors—historic adventures, conservation conversations, and a surprising announcement that now makes all three hosts married.
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
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Ep. 325: Legends, Lyrics & the Outdoors at Christmas
Dec 23, 2025It’s a Christmas special on the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast, and Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod are joined by the one-and-only Lisa Snuggs for an episode packed with warmth, nostalgia, music, and outdoor tradition.
A heartfelt conversation filled with outdoor traditions, music, and unforgettable stories. From growing up in a family rooted in fishing and hunting to singing her way into meetings with legends like Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard, Lisa shares memories that feel like Christmas around the campfire.
Fore more info:
Lisa McDowell Snuggs Music
Freshwater Fishing Hall of Fame
Ep. 324: Where Fishing Becomes Family: The Legacy of River Bend Resort
Dec 16, 2025This week, Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod sit down with Paul Johnson of River Bend Resort to explore the heart and heritage of Minnesota’s Lake of the Woods.
From family-run resorts to lifelong fishing traditions, Paul shares how he and his wife, Brandi, turned their love of the outdoors into a legacy that brings families together year after year.
A warm, nostalgic, and inspiring look at how fishing trips become lifelong memories.
For more info:
River Bend Resort Website
River Bend Resort Facebook
River Bend Resort Instagram
Wa...
Ep. 323: From NFL Hits to Healing Hearts: Don Cherry’s Second Act
Dec 09, 2025Former NFL linebacker Don Cherry joins Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod to share his remarkable journey from professional football to groundbreaking research on service dogs and trauma recovery. Cherry opens up about life after the NFL, the impact of brain injuries, and how working with veterans and service animals led him to pursue a PhD at Mizzou.
This episode explores the powerful bond between humans and animals—and how it’s helping redefine healing.
For more info:
ReCHAI Website
ReCHAI Facebook
Special thanks to:
Living The Drea...
Ep. 322: Where the Wild Stories Are
Dec 02, 2025Deer on the powerline, blacktails in the rainforest, and salmon on the Columbia—this episode celebrates every corner of the outdoors. Uncle Steve joins Brandon and Shags to recap his Missouri success, the hospitality of great landowners, the beauty of Oregon’s rugged hunting country, and how a Midwest/Oregon bond keeps growing year after year.
A nostalgic, hilarious, heartfelt celebration of what deer camp really means. Big bucks get shot, big meals get cooked, and big stories get told. From Oregon blacktails to Missouri monsters, this episode proves the best trophy in the woods is the time spen...
Ep. 321: The "Hot" Deer Opener
Nov 25, 2025It felt more like summer than deer season. The crew unpacks Missouri’s low opening-weekend totals, crazy heat, and the moments that still made it special.
Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with Unpaid Pro-staffers, Paddle Don, Joe Hawkins and Michael Collins.
Emotions run high as Shags shares the story of harvesting a buck with his father’s rifle. While the rest of the crew break down the unusual opener and the odd weather that came with it.
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insul...
Ep. 320: Deer, Data & Dedication: A Conversation with Scott Cronin
Nov 18, 2025Chronic Wasting Disease, hunter recruitment, and outdoor education take center stage as Scott Cronin joins the Driftwood Outdoors crew to talk about the changing face of hunting and why sharing knowledge is key to the sport’s future.
From the power of mentorship to lessons learned from wounded deer and missed shots, this conversation with Scott Cronin celebrates the honesty and heart that make hunting more than a hobby — it’s a way of life.
For more info:
Scott Cronin Bio
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Propert...
Ep. 319: Deer, Danger, and Dan Stefanich
Nov 11, 2025This week, Brandon and Shags welcome veteran outdoorsman and award-winning writer Dan Stefanich, who’s been sharing his passion for hunting, fishing, and conservation across the Midwest for over three decades.
From tales of close calls in the woods to tried-and-true deer strategies, Dan brings both knowledge and laughs. Plus, Brandon learns a valuable lesson about what not to do for social media likes.
For more info:
Boneyard Fishing website
Boneyard outfitters hunting website
Boneyard outfitters fishing and lodge FB
Dan Steff Outdoors Website
Special th...
Ep. 318: We Interrupt Hunting Season for This Marriage
Nov 04, 2025Fresh off Big Rock Candy Mountain, Shags returns from wedding bliss — the “Forever Fiancé” is now the “Former Fiancé.” Brandon and Shags welcome back their good buddy Michael Collins from Misty Mountain Guiding Service to talk about the wedding weekend, fly-fishing the Ozarks, and a few deer that almost stole the show. The crew also dives into the dos and don’ts of public land hunting, including Michael’s recent run-in with a not-so-friendly neighbor in the woods.
For more info:
Misty Mountain FB Page
Misty Mountain Instagram
Misty Mountain Website
Special thanks...
Ep. 317: Before MeatEater: Clay Newcomb on Bears, Bows & Backcountry
Oct 28, 2025While Shags is off celebrating his wedding, we’re rolling back to one of our favorite conversations from the early days of the show. In this best-of episode, Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Clay Newcomb — before he joined MeatEater and became a household name in the hunting world.
Clay talks about building Bear Hunting Magazine and its podcast, managing bears, spot-and-stalk hunts, baiting, and how the Ouachita Mountains stack up against the Ozarks. Plus: traditional bows, the mystery bait bucket, and a gear review that takes us straight back to the roots of the show.
Ep. 316: Legend Revisited: The Most Interesting Fly Fisherman — Mark Van Patten
Oct 21, 2025While Shags is off tying the knot, we’re rewinding to one of our all-time favorite conversations.
In this classic episode, Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with fly-fishing legend Mark Van Patten for a wild and unforgettable ride. From Woodstock adventures and hitchhiking across the country to childhood street gangs, stream teams, the tying bench, mystery bait bucket, and gear talk — this is storytelling at its best.
Episode 315 takes us back to where it all began: Episode 10.
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulati...
Ep. 315: Strings, Shots & Skinwalkers
Oct 14, 2025What do alien encounters, Robin Hood arrows, and finely tuned bows have in common? They all collide in this wild episode as Brandon and Shags welcome Jared Westfall of Creed Archery Supply. From running a pro shop to prepping for prime Midwest whitetail season, this one hits the mark.
From working inside a prison to owning one of Missouri’s premier archery shops, Jared Westfall built a dream around bows, bucks, and building a legacy. Brandon and Shags talk gear, passion, and hunting season in this can't-miss episode.
For more info:
Creed Archery Su...
Ep. 314: Trout Routes in the Driftless Region
Oct 07, 2025Brandon Butler flies solo in Wisconsin at Doug Duren’s legendary farm for a deep dive into fall in the Driftless. From glowing autumn hillsides to cold spring creeks full of browns and rainbows, this multi-part conversation explores why the Driftless is one of the Midwest’s most unique outdoor destinations.
In Part One, Brandon sits down with Eric Johnson, Community Marketing Manager for Trout Routes, to talk about mapping tools, OnX Hunt and OnX Fish, and how technology is helping anglers find public water. They’re joined by conservationist Doug Duren of Share the Land and Kyle Zempel...
Ep. 313: Mapping the Future of Fishing with OnX Fish
Sep 30, 2025Brandon and Nathan welcome Joel Nelson from OnX Fish for a conversation that starts with a hat swap in a Wisconsin boat and quickly dives deep into the future of fishing.
From the Association of Great Lakes Outdoor Writers conference to chasing smallmouth and crappie, the crew shares stories about conservation, outdoor media, and the power of technology on the water. Joel explains how OnX Fish is revolutionizing angling with data-driven maps, giving anglers confidence to explore new lakes and target trophy fish.
Packed with laughs, live-scope frustrations, and Midwestern fishing tales, this episode is a...
Ep. 312: Bear Hunts, Broken Macs and Bad Connections
Sep 23, 2025This week on Driftwood Outdoors, Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod welcome guest Keith Hannaman to talk all things bear hunting across the country and here in Missouri.
What should’ve been a smooth conversation turned into one of the wildest recordings yet — Brandon’s iMac Pro took a nosedive, Missouri weather kept knocking Keith offline, and the whole thing quickly spiraled into a comical disaster.
Still, amidst the chaos, the crew managed to cover bear hunting, Keith’s days playing football at Penn State, the kickoff of archery season, and of course, the Mystery Bait Bucket.
Ep. 311: CWD in the Crosshairs: Respectful Debate
Sep 16, 2025In this episode of Drifting Outdoors, hosts Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Missouri farmer, rancher, realtor, and outdoorsman Bob Parker for a wide-ranging conversation that goes far beyond Facebook debates.
Together they dig into chronic wasting disease, habitat management, property rights, and the often messy relationship between conservation policy and life on the ground. Bob also shares the story of his viral canoe and metal wildlife art, his early start in land stewardship, and how growing up in Kansas shaped his love for the outdoors.
At its heart, this episode is about find...
Ep. 310: From Deer Stands to Deep Seas
Sep 09, 2025This week on Driftwood Outdoors, the crew sits down with longtime friend and international fishing traveler, Bob Critser.
From chasing whitetails in Indiana to hauling tuna off Mexico’s coast, Bob shares how his outdoor journey shifted from deer stands to the deep sea — and the adventures, challenges, and laughs along the way.
To follow Bob's adventures:
BC Instagram Page
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Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
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Ep. 309: The Changing Face of Hunting
Sep 02, 2025In this episode of Drifting Outdoors, the crew dives into what it really means to be a hunter in today’s world. Brandon returns from Indiana after keynoting a Backcountry Hunters & Anglers event, reflecting on conservation, community, and the responsibility modern hunters carry.
Jameson Hibbs — BHA regional coordinator — shares insights on the organization’s mission, growth, and the fight for public lands. From the infamous Missouri Four corner-crossing battle to the culture shift from tradition to trophy obsession, the conversation explores hunting’s past, present, and uncertain future.
It’s a candid, passionate, and sometimes controversial look at why w...
Ep. 308: Politics, Paddle Don, and Prolonged Fasting: A Driftwood Catch-Up
Aug 26, 2025In this laid-back episode of the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast, Brandon, Shags, and Joe take a breather from the heavy topics of recent weeks to catch up on life, health experiments, and the outdoors. Shags shares the highs, lows, and surprising benefits of his 72-hour water fast—including euphoria, insomnia, and the ultimate reward: a bowl of sauerkraut.
The crew also recaps Paddle Don’s wedding, digs into self-control and the challenges of modern eating, and debates everything from Missouri River canoe trips to outdoor policy, hunting culture, and even Ted Nugent’s controversial role in conservation conversations.
W...
EP 307: In Memory of Jerry Presley: A Missouri Conservation Legend
Aug 19, 2025This week, we pay tribute to one of Missouri’s greatest conservationists — Jerry Presley, former Director of the Missouri Department of Conservation, who passed away on August 9, 2025, at the age of 94.
Jerry dedicated nearly four decades to protecting and managing Missouri’s natural resources and inspired generations of outdoor lovers through his leadership, mentorship, and passion for the outdoors. From his humble roots in Low Wassie to the helm of MDC, Jerry lived a life defined by service, stewardship, and a deep love for the Missouri wilderness.
In remembrance, we’re replaying Episode 60, one...
EP. 306: Shags Hits the Walleye Capital: Fishing Lake of the Woods
Aug 12, 2025This week on Driftwood Outdoors, Shags heads north to the legendary Lake of the Woods for the Fishing with Shags Experience at Ballard’s Resort—recently ranked the #3 fishing lodge in the country by USA Today.
From early morning casts to big-time catches, Shags and the crew teamed up with expert guide Brian for an unforgettable few days on the water. Hear the stories, the laughs, and the highlights from this epic summer trip to the Walleye Capital of the World.
If you love fishing, this one’s for you.
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Ep. 305: CWD in Missouri: The Fight for Our Deer Herd
Aug 05, 2025Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is more than just a wildlife issue—it's a crisis reshaping Missouri's deer hunting culture and threatening our landowners’ way of life. With confusion, controversy, and misinformation running rampant, Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod of Driftwood Outdoors are hosting a powerful, event to cut through the noise and get to the truth.
Recorded live at Runge Nature Center, this episode brings together some of the most respected voices in wildlife conservation:
Kip Adams of the National Deer Association explains the science behind CWD.
Doug Duren, land steward and Wisconsin conserva...
Ep. 304: Streamside Stories with Jeff Trigg: Guiding, Gear & Growing Pressure
Jul 29, 2025We’re joined by Jeff Trigg, a seasoned smallmouth fishing guide and sales rep for MeatEater’s top brands like First Lite and FHF Gear.
From Missouri’s scenic rivers to the shifting landscape of outdoor retail, we dive into everything: the proposed non-resident fishing license hike, the disappearing fly shops of the Midwest, stream pressure, life in the outdoor industry, and of course—our signature Mystery Bait Bucket question.
A must-listen for anyone who loves the water and the gear that gets you there.
For more info:
Jeff Trigg Instagram
jeff...
Ep. 303: Pollinator Power: Building Habitat with Elsa Gallagher
Jul 22, 2025In this episode of Driftwood Outdoors, Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod sit down with Elsa Gallagher, Habitat Program Director at The Bee & Butterfly Habitat Fund.
Elsa shares how her work is helping pollinators thrive across the Midwest by creating diverse, high-quality habitats on public and private lands. From seed mixes to sustainable management strategies, learn how the NextGen Habitat Projects are changing the game for bees, butterflies, upland birds, and more.
Whether you're a landowner, conservationist, or just love wild places, this episode is full of practical knowledge and outdoor inspiration.
For more...
EP. 302: Behind the Lens: Bill Konway on Outdoor Media, Photography & a Life Outside
Jul 15, 2025If you love stories about the great outdoors, media evolution, and chasing your passion—this one’s for you.
This week on the Driftwood Outdoors Podcast, Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod sit down with legendary outdoor photographer Bill Konway for a wide-ranging conversation that dives deep into life behind the lens and beyond. From photographing U.S. presidents and sports legends like Michael Jordan and Walter Payton, to capturing the quiet beauty of a foggy morning in the Midwest woods, Bill’s career spans the fast-paced world of newspaper journalism and the authentic soul of outdoor storytelling.
T...
Ep. 301: Legends Met, Fires Faced, Memories Made
Jul 08, 2025Brandon and Nathan take a deep breath and look back on nearly six unforgettable years behind the mics of Driftwood Outdoors.
From the surreal honor of interviewing childhood heroes like Bill Dance and Al Lindner, to life-altering moments like Shags surviving a stroke and the arson that destroyed Brandon’s cabin, this episode is a heartfelt reflection on the wild ride so far.
It’s a celebration of the friendships made, the fish caught, the deer tagged, and the countless conversations recorded everywhere from Midwestern trails to faraway adventures. With stories of hilarious mishaps, humbling challenges, and...
Ep. 300: Hello, Mr. Kehoe
Jul 01, 2025We hit a major milestone with Episode 300, and who better to share it with than Missouri Governor Mike Kehoe? Brandon and Nathan sit down for a wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from the Governor’s deep love for Missouri’s great outdoors—hunting, fishing, conservation, and public lands—to the current state of politics both in Missouri and across the nation.
Of course, it wouldn’t be Driftwood Outdoors without a little awkwardness—Shags manages to be weird around the Governor more than once (including a wedding invite), but it all adds to the charm. We also put Governor Keh...
Ep. 299: Boundary Waters Recap: Tales from the Wilderness
Jun 24, 2025Brandon Butler is joined by Paddle Don, Derek Butler, and Adam Voight to relive their unforgettable journey through Minnesota’s legendary Boundary Waters—without co-host Nathan McLeod, who sat this one out.
Guiding them through the adventure was special guest Scott Mackenthun, a seasoned fish biologist with the Minnesota DNR, who not only planned the trip but played a key role in helping the crew navigate the challenges of the backcountry.
From portage pain and campfire camaraderie to fishing tactics and wildlife encounters, this episode dives deep into the raw realities and unforgettable moments of remote wild...
Ep. 298: Paddles, Packs, and the Unknown: Prepping for the Boundary Waters
Jun 17, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod are joined by special guests Paddle Don, Derek Butler, and Adam Voight for an exciting deep dive into their upcoming first-ever trip to the legendary Boundary Waters of Minnesota.
With candid conversation and plenty of laughs, the group discusses everything from essential gear and fishing plans to the unpredictable nature of wilderness travel—including food prep, bear safety, and the thrill (and challenge) of venturing into such a remote, pristine area. It’s a raw and relatable look at the anticipation and adventure of what could be a once-in-a-lifetime outdoor experience.
Sp...
Ep. 297: Public Lands Under Fire: A Conversation with Hal Herring
Jun 10, 2025Award-winning journalist Hal Herring joins Brandon Butler and Nathan McLeod for a deep dive into the critical issues facing public lands and conservation in America today. As a veteran writer for Field & Stream, The Atlantic Monthly, The Economist, and more, Herring brings a sharp perspective and years of investigative reporting to this no-holds-barred conversation.
In this episode, the trio tackles the controversial attempted sale of public lands in Utah, the deceptive legislation that threatens our natural resources (a.k.a. the “big beautiful bill”), and how conservation is being caught up in political narratives and culture wars. They also...
Ep. 296: Milo's Flies
Jun 03, 2025In this heartfelt and fish-filled episode, Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with longtime friend and avid angler Ryan “Milo” Miloshewski.
The trio dives into Milo’s latest venture, Milo’s Flies, a new fly tying business born from passion and countless hours on the water. They swap fishing stories from Lake Taneycomo and the White River, test out new fly patterns, and reflect on the legacy of the late Chuck Gries of Anglers Outfitters, a beloved figure in the Ozarks fishing community who recently passed after a battle with cancer.
Of course, it wouldn’t be...
Ep. 295: Midwest Waters with Misty Mountains Michael
May 27, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod are joined by Michael Collins of Misty Mountain Guiding Service for a deep dive into fly fishing across the Midwest. From the clear streams of mid-Missouri to the legendary Driftless waters of Wisconsin and Iowa, the trio covers it all—smallmouth, trout, and the magic of chasing wild fish in wild places.
They also get into fly tying, the evolving culture of conservation, and proposed changes from the Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) that could impact anglers and hunters alike. Other highlights include Brandon getting duped by internet misinformation, a discussion on Chroni...
Ep. 294: Wild Turkeys, Island Feasts & Vineyard Stories with Chef Johnny Graham and Brett Stearns
May 20, 2025In this flavorful episode, we’re joined by two Martha’s Vineyard legends—Johnny Graham, celebrity chef and owner of Revel Catering & Events, and Brett Stearns, Director of the Natural Resources Department for the Wampanoag Tribe of Gay Head (Aquinnah). Together, they take us on a journey through the island’s rich culture, stunning landscapes, and world-class food and fishing traditions.
We dive into Brandon Butler’s ambitious “50 in 50 by 50” challenge—harvesting an animal in all 50 states before his 50th birthday—and hear the story behind his recent wild turkey hunt on the Vineyard with Johnny and Brett.
From oc...
Ep. 293: Where the Wild Heals: Kevin Rhodes on Veterans, Youth, and the Power of Campfires
May 13, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Kevin Rhodes founder and operator of B4 Outdoors.
B4 Outdoors is a 501(c)(3) non-profit committed to serving those who serve us, our communities, and our nation: veterans, first responders, and law enforcement officers. We provide these selfless servants with transformative outdoor experiences through hunting and fishing adventures. Additionally, opportunities for youth are provided in an effort to foster and nurture a love and respect for the outdoors and all it has to offer.
For more info:
B4 Outdoors Website
B4 Outdoors Facebook
B4 Ou...
Ep. 292: Shags is back after a long good-bye
May 06, 2025In this heartfelt episode, Nathan "Shags" McLeod returns to the mic after a month away with family, grieving the loss of his father. Joined by Brandon Butler, who’s calling in from a turkey hunt on Martha’s Vineyard with celebrity chef Johnny Graham, the conversation moves between mourning and memories to the healing power of the great outdoors. Brandon shares stories from the field, highlights his ambitious "50 in 50 by 50" quest—harvesting an animal in every state before he turns 50—and reflects on how time outside brings clarity in life’s toughest moments. This episode blends emotion, adventure, and the enduring b...
Duration: 01:03:43Ep. 291: Early Turkey Season Success for Milo, Walker, and Texas Ranger
Apr 29, 2025With Shags still in Oregon due to the loss of his father, Brandon Butler calls in a couple of Driftwood Outdoors known associates to talk turkey at mid-season and other joys of spring. The Josh Lane and his three boys have already knocked down four birds. The Lanes rarely have an empty freezer. Josh shares their success stories on private and public land. Ryan Miloshewski checks in from Kansas City after returning home from a successful turkey hunting trip near the Gasconade River in Central Missouri. Walleye fishing, outdoor cooking, and the joys of Spring round out the episode.
Ep. 290: Missouri DOGE Hearing on Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
Apr 22, 2025Want to hear what the Missouri DOGE committee learned about Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)? Listen to the actual audio from the Chronic Wasting Disease hearing conducted by the Missouri State Senate Committee on Government Efficiency, or DOGE. Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) Director Jason Sumners testifies before the committee on the reasoning behind the state's handling of this unfortunate disease.
For more info:
MDC Website
MDC CWD
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
C...
Ep. 289: Sometimes You Just Need Someone to Go Fishing With You
Apr 15, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with John Bledsoe creator and owner of the Co-Angler App.
Co-Angler connects anglers for fishing trips, while also allowing them to share costs, making fishing more accessible, affordable, and enjoyable. From creating a personalized profile to exploring a customized home feed, Co-Angler lets you tailor your fishing experience to your preferences. Co-Angler BETA is our first product offering, aiming to build a vibrant community of anglers. Join us now and be part of the exciting journey from the ground floor, as Co-Angler is currently 100% free to use
For m...
Ep. 288: Amateur angler, mediocre fish squeezer, half-a--ed hunter
Apr 08, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Minnesota DNR's fish biologist, Scott Mackenthun.
In this episode, we explore the state of Minnesota’s legendary waters, from the 10,000 lakes to the vast Boundary Waters and beyond. We dive into conservation efforts, the health of the fish populations, and what the future holds for Minnesota's iconic lakes and rivers. But it’s not all science—Shags takes us on a personal journey, sharing stories from his basketball days in the Twin Cities, his fishing adventures with Shags Fishing Experience, and unforgettable trips to Ballard’s Resort. We also hear about B...
Ep. 287: Wish I Had This Growing Up
Apr 01, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod record from the Branson convention center during the MoNASP State Championship.
Every March, the MoNASP State Championship brings together talented youth archers from across the state to compete in a celebration of skill, sportsmanship and teamwork. The MoNASP State Championship has seen tremendous growth and is the second largest state archery tournament in the nation. More than 4,300 student archers from across the state are expected to compete in the upcoming State Championship in 2025 after working hard throughout the school year to achieve qualifying scores throughout various local MoNASP tournaments.
...
Ep. 286: From Missouri to Wyoming and Back
Mar 25, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Kyle Spradley owner and operator of Kyle Spradley Photography.
Kyle Spradley is a landscape and nature photographer who also specializes in sports, photojournalism and video production. He is a St. Louis, Missouri based photographer available for commercial and editorial services, wedding photography and portraits, and is an FAA-certified Drone Pilot producing aerial photography and videography.
For more info:
Kyle's Website
Kyle's Facebook
Kyle's Instagram
Kyle's YouTube
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
...
Ep. 285: Sorry You Almost Got Killed
Mar 18, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with lifelong friend, outdoorsman, and firefighter Eric Hoskins for a wide-ranging conversation that covers a bit of everything in the world of hunting, fishing, and conservation.
Eric shares his unique perspective on hunting in Missouri while hailing from Indiana, touching on the challenges of navigating different landscapes and regulations. The guys dive into heavy topics like poaching, close calls with reckless hunters, and the thrills (and spills) of fishing. Eric also introduces us to his brand new bass boat, and the group shares their favorite lakes to fish in both...
Ep. 284: A Missouri Tradition Like No Other
Mar 11, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with freshwater fishing hall of fame and fly fishing guru Mark Van Patton at Big Rock Candy Mountain to discuss the Missouri Trout Opener.
Every year thousands of die-hard anglers line the banks at one of Missouri’s trout parks for the opening day of catch-and-keep trout season. In years past, anglers have faced frigid winter temperatures, snow, sleet and ice, as well as sunshine and springlike weather all in the attempt of catching an elusive lunker. This Missouri tradition not only creates memories, but some of the biggest fish storie...
Ep. 283: Fish, Films, and Goodwill Towards Men with Teeg Stouffer
Mar 04, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Teeg Stouffer Founder & Executive Producer at Fascination Film Studio.
A Fascination Film is a beautiful documentary that doesn't require you to be a world class storyteller to end up with a magnificent movie. We are storytellers who will work with you to listen and learn to your story, help craft it, and then tell it through interviews, narration, pictures and sound.
Fascination Films isn't limited to family documentaries. We also work with companies, communities and organizations that want to celebrate and preserve their heritage. We all live our l...
Ep. 282: Hunting for Policy: Bryan Poynter on Conservation, Legislation, and the Outdoors
Feb 25, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Bryan Poynter the host of Indiana Outdoors radio show.
Bryan Poynter is the host of the Saturday morning Indiana Outdoors Show on 1070 The Fan and Network Indiana from 5-6am. He brings to that show more than 20 years of hunting, fishing, and exploring the four corners of the state.
Bryan is an avid deer and duck hunter. He also spends a lot time “playing cowboy” when he can. For his work on the Indiana Outdoors program, Bryan was named the DNR Outdoor Communicator of the Year in 2000 as well...
Ep. 281: Clean Water with Siltworm
Feb 18, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Joe Moore founder of Siltworm a division of Erosion and Construction Solutions, Inc.
At Siltworm, their mission is to mitigate erosion and control sediment while maintaining an environmentally friendly job-site.
Honor God. Provide Unlimited Opportunity. Impact the World. We achieve these by providing high value erosion and sediment control.
For more info:
Siltworm website
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
...
Ep. 280: Wolf Pack Adventures with Pat Kalmerton
Feb 11, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Pat Kalmerton co-owner and operator of Wolf Pack Adventures LLC, Pat guides clients from around the globe on Lake Michigan, its tributaries and inland waters.
Pat grew up in Sheboygan County, Wis., learning to hunt and fish under the instruction of his father, Roy. By age 12, Pat was first-mating on charter boats; by 20, he'd earned his USCG Captain's license. Pat quickly developed a reputation as an expert angler and hunter with abilities beyond his years, partially due to the lessons in conservation biology and sportsmen's ethics that his father stres...
Ep. 279: Pacific Northwest Pursuits: Hunting, Fishing, & Clam Digging with John Kruse
Feb 04, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with John Kruse, host and Producer of America Outdoors Radio and Northwestern Outdoors Radio.
A native of Pacific Northwest, John Kruse is an experienced outdoors writer and radio broadcaster who has had the opportunity to fish, hunt, hike, camp, and paddle his way across a good portion of North America. John has written magazine articles for a number of publications and is the author of "Great Places Washington". John is also the long time host of "Northwestern Outdoors Radio", an award winning radio show heard on 69 stations in Washington, Oregon...
Ep. 278: The Lodge of Hope: Restoring Lives with Peterson Outdoors Ministries
Jan 28, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with Tron Peterson of Peterson Outdoors Ministries.
Peterson Outdoors Ministries' (POM) mission is to provide faith based outdoor recreational therapy for injured and recovering Veterans, and their families, as well as youth and adults with disabilities or terminal illness.
It was founded in 2006 to provide hope, healing, and restoration for veterans, and their families, as well as those with disabilities and serious illness. With an emphasis on veterans, and those with disabilities, Peterson Outdoors Ministries has expanded its outreach to include First Responders, Military Chaplains, Gold Star and...
Ep. 277: Hunting with Purpose: MHHF’s Impact on Youth and Conservation
Jan 21, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with MHHF's Executive Director, Colton Zirkle.
The Missouri Hunting Heritage Federation introduces youth to an outdoor way of life featuring our hunting tradition, the shooting sports and the enjoyment of being in Missouri's natural landscape. Through education and hands-on training, youth learn how to safely handle firearms, gain an understanding of wildlife conservation and are introduced to the many enjoyable aspects of Missouri's hunting heritage.
For More Info:
MHHF Website
MHHF Facebook
MHHF Instagram
Special thanks to:
Living...
Ep. 276: From Audio to Video: The Driftwood Outdoors Podcast Evolution
Jan 14, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with good friend and unpaid pro-staffer Paddle Don Cranfill to work out the kinks and talk everything outdoors.
Topics Discussed: We're on the youtube, life stats, deer hunt encounters, fishing hours, river miles, Big Rock Candy Mtn, Trout opener, Indiana DNR, favorite jobs, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Driftwood Outdoors Youtube
Paddle Don's Hoosiering
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Riv...
Ep. 275: New Year, New Us
Jan 07, 2025Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down to recap 2024 and share thoughts on the year to come.
Topics Discussed: New Year's resolutions, fly fishing for trout and the river we no longer speak of, Big Rock Candy Mountain, Shags' wedding, college basketball, 50 in 50 by 50, Telepathy Tapes, cryotherapy, upcoming trip to Oregon, favorite Christmas gifts, golfing goals, cigars, bourbon, mystery bait bucket and more.
For More Info:
Telepathy Tapes
Element Cryotherapy
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Ep. 274: Halt The Heist - Keep Public Lands in Public Hands
Dec 31, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Aaron Kindle the Director of Sporting Advocacy for the National Wildlife Federation.
The State of Utah filed suit against the United States– and 13 states supported it– claiming the federal government unconstitutionally holds more than 18.5 million unappropriated acres of public land in the state. At the same time, Utah launched a multipronged advertising campaign to convince people that this is a good idea.
Let’s be clear: this is about the potential disposal and selloff of our public lands, which would forever remove our ability to use these lan...
Ep. 273: Merry Crappie Christmas!
Dec 24, 2024Merry Christmas! Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with Kris Nelson of Tandem Fly Outfitters after another crappie trip down Pomme de Terre.
Tandem Fly Outfitters operates out of Stockton, Missouri and prioritizes building the relationships with their customers and giving them the best experience they can get.
Topics discussed: Christmas gift exchanges, Pomme de Terre AKA: Ground Apple Lake, Scenic River Taxidermy and memorable mounts, the "Sad Texas Turkey," upcoming plans for winter, remembering best fishing trips, catching the State Record Black Buffalo and breaking the 35 year standing record, mystery bait b...
Ep. 272: Getting Even with Delaware
Dec 17, 2024Brandon Butler sits down with Tavin Mullen of Steady Pressure Kennels and Jeremy Harper of JD Harper Lawncare to discuss rabbit hunting in Delaware, after Brandon gets his first Delaware rabbit.
Steady Pressure Kennels is a beagle breeding service located in Delaware, that focuses on quality over quantity in the rabbit hunting industry.
Topics discussed: rabbit hunting in Delaware, types of beagles used, mentorships, how they got this organization started, types of training, bloodline progression, trait selection and research, hunting commands, hopes for the future, division in politics and sticking to your communities, mystery...
Ep. 271: Sobriety, Recovery, and a Strokeaversary
Dec 10, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with Trey Dawson the owner/operator of Recovery Outdoors and Backyard K9s.
Trey is an inspiring example of resilience and redemption. After overcoming a harrowing battle with opioid addiction and serving time in prison, he has committed his life to supporting others facing similar challenges. Using the healing power of the outdoors, Trey guides people in reconnecting with nature as a path to recovery. His journey from hardship to hope serves as a powerful reminder that transformation is possible, and he now dedicates himself to empowering others on their own...
Ep. 270: My Two Steves
Dec 03, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with Steve Jones and Uncle Steve to discuss CWD and Missouri hunting 2024.
Topics discussed: Recapping Uncle Steve's Missouri whitetail hunt, past hunting successes and failures, Mid Mo Drone deer recovery, CWD (Chronic Waste Disease), a little law and regulation, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Mid Mo Drone
(573) 469-5714
midmodrone@gmail.com
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC<...
Ep. 269: Giving Thanks with Coyote Hill Foster Care Ministries
Nov 26, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Bill Atherton and Joe Knight of Coyote Hill Foster Care Ministries.
Each year, hundreds of children enter foster care in mid-Missouri. This means hundreds of children in our neighborhoods are in unsafe homes. Coyote Hill’s mission is to provide a safe place to be a child for every child impacted by foster care. For over 30 years, Coyote Hill Foster Care Ministries has worked to keep kids safe.
Topics discussed: history of Coyote Hill, program utilization, foster care challenges, parenting classes and family resources, success stories, becoming a foste...
Ep. 268: Hooked on Vets, Too!
Nov 19, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Clay Henderson, founder of Hooked on Vets, and Mario Lozina, owner of LOZ Lures.
Hooked on vets mission is to facilitate family oriented fishing and outdoor experiences for all veterans and their families. We will share our love of the outdoors and show them how to better experience it. When their mission ends ours begins.
Topics discussed: Hooked on Vets event at Montauk, origin of organization, veterans serving veterans and how to get involved, veteran mental health and resources, mental health benefits of fishing, LOZ Lures and...
Ep. 267: Campfire Conversations
Nov 12, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit around a campfire catching up with Paddle Don, Adam Voight, Hollywood Steve, Misty Mountain Michael, and Joe Hawkins.
Topics discussed: Ozark attractions, devils well, peck ranch, the old 40 acres, state farm commercials, new fly shop idea, Mark Van Patten, fishing, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Misty Mountain Guiding Service (573) 823-9057
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
...
Ep. 266: Live Studio Audience
Nov 05, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod attend Big Rock Candy Mountain's first Fly Fishing Weekend with Mark Van Patten and Driftwood Outdoors.
Recorded during the meet and greet for all attendees.
Guests included:
Mark Nettles, board member of the Ozark Riverways Foundation
Billy Smith, owner of Scenic Rivers Guide Service (573-225-3390)
Michael Collins, owner of Misty Mountain Guiding Service
Mark Van Patten, Fresh Water Fishing Hall of Famer, Author, and fly fishing guru
Topics discussed: Falling in love with Big Rock Candy Mountain and...
Ep. 265: The Bloodiest 47 Acres in American History
Oct 29, 2024Happy Halloween!!!!!!!!! Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod do a ghost hunt while touring Missouri State Penitentiary at night with guides Jenny Switzer and Reese Ramold.
The "Bloodiest 47 Acres in American History" refers to the Missouri State Penitentiary in Jefferson City, Missouri, which was given this nickname by Time Magazine due to the extreme violence and brutality that occurred within its grounds, particularly between 1963 and 1964.
Topics discussed: facility history and living arrangements, infamous inmates and notable moments in its history, punishments and brutality, the basement, inhumanity, paranormal activity and Doppelgangers, Death Row and the g...
Ep. 264: Nylon Windbreakers and New Balance
Oct 22, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Eric Call, owner of Superior Insulation.
Superior Insulation has decades of combined experience in the spray foam and coatings business, built on quality work, customer experience and crazy good insulation.
Topics discussed: Share the Harvest, moose hunting, Alaska hunting, Eric's bald-faced hornet sting, college football, program updates and community support, youth deer season, shooting pics of state capitals, bird watching, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Fly Fishing Weekend at Big Rock Candy Mountain
Superior Insulation
573...
Ep. 263: The Nimrod Society
Oct 15, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down with Nick Green, Director of Marketing and Communications at The Nimrod Society.
The Nimrod Society was created in order to facilitate programs to educate the general public on the positive role anglers and hunters play in society through accurate and factual education and media programs.
Topics discussed: fly fishing weekend at Big Rock Candy Mountain, Nick's career projection, travels and experiences, waterfowl seasons and hunting, The Nimrod Society's history and name, creating hunters and anglers, projects and initiatives, Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation, Lake Taneycomo and trout fishing, p...
Ep. 262: The Taj Ma-Smoker
Oct 08, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod finally catch Uncle Steve on his first time out from under the bus in a while.
Topics discussed: Steve's new iPhone and where on Earth he has been, the unpredictable weather in Missouri, Steve's fancy new smoker, deer and elk seasons in the Pacific Northwest, ground rules for his upcoming hunt with the boys, other plans for his trip to Missouri, football, removing hornet nests and things learned the hard way, fly fishing weekend at Big Rock Candy Mountain, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more...
Ep. 261: Where in the World is Uncle Steve?
Oct 01, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod call Roger at Big Rock Candy Mountain for an update on the upcoming fly fishing weekend, which you're all invited to! They also discuss current and future happenings in their separate worlds, while Uncle Steve ignores their text messages.
Topics discussed: Fly fishing weekend at Big Rock Candy Mountain, expecting the unexpected, fishing in November, fall deer hunting with Uncle Steve and why won't he respond to his nephew, ground rules for the upcoming hunt, dad bods are actually better, Mo State Penn tour, Brandon's Idaho trip, and the future Venez...
Ep. 260: You're Invited!
Sep 24, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod sit down to talk about an exciting opportunity for you to join them at Big Rock Candy Mountain, and recap recent happenings.
Topics discussed: Fly Fishing Weekend at Big Rock Candy Mountain, wedding planning, Brandon's trip to the Northeast, former presidents, Johnny Morris, ethical hunting and meaningful wins, drones in hunting, MONASP, Retrieving Freedom and more.
For more info:
Fly Fishing Weekend Event Page
Big Rock Candy Mountain
Driftwood Outdoors
Special thanks to:
Living...
Ep. 259: No Bears, No Biggie
Sep 17, 2024Brandon Butler sits down with George Sabattus, Jr. of Sabattus Hunting Adventures, hunter Jim York, and Lauren Plunkett after bear hunting in Jackman, Maine.
Topics discussed: Terrain, beauty, and bear population in Maine, baiting considerations, spring tribal hunts, Passamaquoddy Tribe and reservation, trapping methods, moose hunting and guiding, and more.
For more info:
Sabattus Hunting Adventures
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
Connect...
Ep. 258: Hooked on Vets
Sep 10, 2024With Brandon Butler in Maine hunting bears, Nathan "Shags" McLeod interviews Drew Minnick, Clay Henderson, and Darrell Cureton, founders of Hooked on Vets, at Montauk State Park.
Hooked on Vets mission is to facilitate family oriented fishing and outdoor experiences for all veterans and their families. We will share our love of the outdoors and show them how to better experience it. When their mission ends ours begins.
Topics discussed: How Hooked on Vets impacts veterans and their families, statewide projects, responsibility and dedication to veterans, the impact of the outdoors on mental health, fl...
Ep. 257: Am I Even an Outdoorsman Anymore?
Sep 03, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod revisit their last podcast, and finish catching up after a long stint of separation.
Topics discussed: Custom golf clubs and Poe Golf, processed foods, Falling Down with Michael Douglas, doing good work with great friends and debunking friends as coworkers taboo, True North Radiothon, Brian Wear's awesomeness, Wings for Wags and Retrieving Freedom, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Driftwood Outdoors
Poe Golf
Retrieving Freedom
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor...
Ep. 256: Hello, Stranger!
Aug 27, 2024Nathan "Shags" McLeod and Brandon Butler finally reunite after several weeks of separation to share their tales of adventure.
Topics discussed: Surviving COVID, self medicating with mac and cheese, recapping Ballard's Resort experience, the woes of building a house, winters in Minnesota, customized golf clubs, Retrieving Freedom and the impact of service dogs, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Driftwood Outdoors
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
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Ep. 255: They Call Me Ham Sandwich
Aug 20, 2024Nathan "Shags" McLeod interviews Ballard's Resort Fishing Guide, Hunter Hamann on his charter boat while fishing in the Disney World of Walleye, Lake of the Woods. Joining them on the boat are semi paid pro-staffer Tim Flanner, Brian Wear, Uncle Keith Meuhler, and Randy and Rick of Fulton.
Ballard’s Resort has been providing memorable fishing vacations since 1961 and is a family owned full service fishing resort offering modern-housekeeping cabins with dock rental to all-inclusive fishing packages featuring lodging, guided fishing, and meal plans.
Topics discussed: Walleye and sauger, drifting spinners, the mixed bag of...
Ep. 254: Ballard's Resort, Lake of the Woods, MN
Aug 13, 2024Nathan "Shags" McLeod interviews Anna Hague, Office Manager of Ballard's Resort in Baudette, Minnesota.
Ballard's Resort has been providing memorable fishing vacations since 1961 and is a family owned full service fishing resort offering modern-housekeeping cabins with dock rental to all-inclusive fishing packages featuring lodging, guided fishing, and meal plans.
Topics discussed: Ballard's unique location, history of the resort, what they offer and resort details, licensing and border crossing, community engagement, partnering with radio shows, how to book, why to book, mystery bait bucket and more.
For more info:
Ballard's...
Ep. 253: Renting Land for Outdoor Enjoyment with SABO Outdoors
Aug 06, 2024Brandon Butler interviews Army Veteran Justin Neal and Navy Veteran Taylor Cassat, founders of SABO Outdoors.
SABO Outdoors is committed to preserving and celebrating the natural world by uniting outdoor enthusiasts and landowners in a shared commitment to conservation through expanding access to private lands for outdoor activities.
Topics discussed: origin of SABO Outdoors, how it works, and its purpose, industry relationships, how the expos have evolved, technology in hunting, deployments and military service, Retrieving Freedom and service to veterans, service dog influence on veteran mental health, how to get involved and more.
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Ep. 252: Aaron Bean - A Real American Hero
Jul 30, 2024Brandon Butler interviews Coast Guard Veteran and Retrieving Freedom, Inc. client Aaron Bean in Baton Rouge, LA at the Delta Waterfowl Expo.
Topics discussed: Growing up in Colorado, duck hunting, EMT school, Rescue Swimmer School, Coast Guard enrollment, being stationed in Kodiak, memorable moments in service, The Guardian, getting his service dog through Retrieving Freedom, and more.
For more info:
Delta Waterfowl Duck Hunters Expo
Retrieving Freedom, Inc.
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle...
Ep. 251: Shags has the Vid and Jesse steps in
Jul 23, 2024Brandon Butler interviews Jesse Deubel while Nathan "Shags" McLeod is out with Covid.
Jesse Deubel is the Executive Director of New Mexico Wildlife Federation, an advocate for preserving public access for fishing and hunting, and a good friend of Driftwood Outdoors.
Topics discussed: Ducks and geese, New Mexico waterfowl, Festival of the Cranes, drone fishing, public access dwindling, conservation policies, privatization of hunting and fishing properties, drawing tags, integrating technology into the outdoors, conservation politics and more.
For more info:
New Mexico Wildlife Federation
Special thanks...
Ep. 250: You Cannot Make Friends When You Need Them
Jul 16, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Jake Buxton, Legislative Liaison of Missouri Department of Conservation.
Jake Buxton is a former Chairman of the Missouri Federation of College Republicans with a degree in Political Science from Truman State University. He has worked in the Office of the Governor and has served as the Legislative Liaison to the Missouri Department of Labor and Industrial Relations.
Topics discussed: all day turkey hunting, turkey biology, politics that matter, what he does at the Capitol, the impact of Sara Parker Pauley, the future of Missouri Department of Conservation le...
Ep. 249: Black Bear Management in Missouri
Jul 09, 2024Nathan "Shags" McLeod joins MDC’s current black bear/furbearer biologist, Nate Bowersock on a black bear trapping expedition for science.
MDC recently updated the Black Bear Management Plan. The updated plan illustrates the multifaceted approach to black bear management within Missouri. This includes using research to inform management decisions, increasing statewide awareness of Missouri’s bear population, and a high priority on minimizing and addressing human-bear conflict as the population grows.
Topics discussed: science-based methods to manage a self-sustaining population of black bears, research, monitoring, population management, habitat management, statewide awareness of Missouri’s black...
Ep. 248: American Family American Dream
Jul 02, 2024Happy 4th of July! Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod sit down with the guys at Doolittle Trailer Mfg., Inc including Ryan Werdehausen (Owner/CEO), Mike McPeak (Sales Manager), James Dial (Sales rep), Crappie Craig Hansen(Sales rep) and Garrett Bradley (Marketing specialist).
Doolittle Trailer Manufacturing came together in 1978 as a small, family owned business building utility trailers in the state of Missouri. Over 40 years later, Doolittle is still owned and run by the same family. The family has grown but so has our business. Doolittle Trailer Mfg. is now one of the premier trailer manufacturers in the Unite...
Ep. 247: The Lord of the Katy Trail
Jun 25, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Brett Dufur, author of Endless River and The Complete Katy Trail Guidebook.
Brett Dufur, a Kansas City-born writer, is renowned for his guidebooks to Missouri's Katy Trail and Rock Island Trail, the state's two longest rails-to-trails projects. His guidebooks have been popular for more than 30 years, providing valuable insights into Missouri's rivers, trails and outdoor adventures.
Topics Discussed: Endless River book of poetry, changing of seasons, Missouri River, defining poets and poetry, Monarch Butterflies and the flight, balancing art and manual labor, Katy Trail Guide Book, Rock Isl...
Ep. 246: The Women of Driftwood Outdoors
Jun 18, 2024Brandon Butler interviews "The Forever Fiance" Savannah Light and Lauren "Big Fish" Plunkett while Shags is back home in Oregon.
Topics Discussed: High School and College fishing, Bull Trout, Northern Pike, Retrieving Freedom, favorite fishing spots and outdoor activities, fishing tournaments, mental health, Taneycomo, Driftwood Acres, hunting, saving turtles, sobriety, and more.
For More Information:
Driftwood Outdoors
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
Connect with Driftwoo...
Ep. 245: Happy Father's Day with Paddle Don
Jun 11, 2024With Shags on vacation back in Oregon, Brandon Butler catches up with the original Driftwood Outdoors Unpaid Prostaffer - Paddle Don. The two cover fishing for Father's Day, traveling to fish small waters, and discuss the release of Brandon's moose hunting film: SHIRAS.
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Doolittle Trailers
Scenic Rivers Taxidermy
Connect with Driftwood Outdoors:
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Email:
info@driftwoodoutdoors.com
Ep. 244: Ten Years of Terrain
Jun 04, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Brad Kovach, founder of Terrain Magazine and Shawn Donnelly, "the new guy" at Terrain Magazine at MOC in Cape Girardeau.
Launched in 2014, Terrain is a nonprofit publication devoted to growing outdoor recreation in St. Louis and the Great Middle West. They deliver a free print publication, online content, community events, and partnerships with leading outdoor organizations.
Topics Discussed: The inspiration and creation of the magazine, the Initiative Petition, Gateway Outdoor Expo, River City Foundation, past adventures, future goals, bucket list activities, Trail of Tears, Rock Island Trail, positiv...
Ep. 243: Trapping is Conservation
May 28, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Tom Westhoff of the Missouri Trapping Association and Tyler Schwartz, Executive Director of Conservation Federation of Missouri at MOC in Cape Girardeau.
Since its creation in 1958, the Missouri Trappers Association has been dedicated to the preservation of the heritage and skills of trapping as well as the conservation and utilization of all natural resources of our state and our nation.
Topics Discussed: Cape Girardeau experience, historic downtown, trapping industry issues, relocation of raccoons, turkey population, how to start trapping, clinics, bidding on fur, types of furs, future of tra...
Ep. 242: Are you down with MOC? Yea, you know me!
May 21, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod celebrate 30 years of the Missouri Outdoor Communicators with some of the original members: Bobby "Bobfather" Whitehead, John Neporadny, Darrell Taylor, Kenny Kieser, Bill Cooper, and Larry Whiteley.
MOC Mission: The Missouri Outdoor Communicators' mission is to advance knowledge of natural resources and related recreational pursuits, to improve MOC members' communication skills, to promote outdoor communications, to encourage appropriate use and conservation of natural resources and to mentor the next generation of outdoor communicators.
Topics Discussed: Cape Girardeau, sightseeing, MCD Nature Center, two-headed snake, LOZ fishing, fishing tour...
Ep. 241: Nature School Rocks!
May 14, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Brian Flowers, Regional Education Supervisor with MDC and Joe Brown, Nature School Lead Teacher with Columbia Public Schools.
The Boone County Nature School will help children connect with nature in new and exciting ways, engage in unique and meaningful cross-curricular learning opportunities, develop proficiency in various outdoor skills, and be inspired to create lasting change in their community by participating in a sustainability project.
Topics Discussed: Turkey numbers, turkey hunting, Yellowstone National Park, Nature School creation and planning, outdoors focused curriculum, thoughtful programming, experienced teachers, favorite field trips...
Ep. 240: New Director of Missouri Department of Conservation: Jason Sumners
May 07, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview newly appointed Jason Sumners, the new Director of MDC, for a casual, informational discussion about the future of Missouri conservation.
“I am excited and humbled by this opportunity the Commission has entrusted me with and the conservation team I get to work with across the state and country. The Missouri outdoors have defined my personal and professional life, so getting to serve in this capacity and continue to tackle the ever-evolving challenges in conservation is an exciting endeavor.” Jason Sumner
Topics Discussed: His career progression, the interview process o...
Ep. 239: The Dalai Lama of the Outdoors
Apr 30, 2024Brandon Butler and Lauren "Big Fish" Plunkett interview Kevin Morlock, owner and operator of Indigo Guide Service.
Indigo Guide Service has offered guided fishing trips on West Michigan’s rivers for over twenty years.
These rivers include the Pere Marquette River, Manistee, White, and Muskegon, where they target trout, steelhead, and salmon. They've also guided the flats of Beaver Island in the summer for over fifteen years, fishing for carp, smallmouth bass, and pike.
Topics Discussed: Pere Marquette, chuck-n-duck fishing, Steelhead trout, walking across Spain with his wife, Spanish cuisine, culture, topography, and w...
Ep. 238: Making Fishing Look Easy
Apr 23, 2024Brandon Butler interviews Captain Frank Campbell, Niagara Region Charter Service guide.
Frank is a full time guide with over 25 years of guiding experience on Lake Erie, Lake Ontario, and the Niagara River. He has been featured on numerous television shows including In-Fisherman, Keith Warren Outdoors, O’Neil’s Outside, Bob Redfern Outdoors, Mid-West Outdoors, and Angling the Great Lakes along with the CBS Morning Show. He has also been featured in media print for several magazines including In-Fisherman, Outdoor Life, Fishing Facts, Salmon Trout & Steelheader Magazine, Great Lakes Angler, New York Outdoors, Lake Ontario Outdoors as well as ESPN O...
Ep. 237: The New World Record Spoonbill
Apr 16, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Jason Smith, Spoonbill World Record Holder and owner of Smiths Fishing Adventures.
Jason has dedicated most of his time to learning and testing several techniques with fishing for Spoonbill on Lake of the Ozarks and Truman Lake using the most up-to-date electronics. "Going beyond the old school ways of fishing has brought more fish into my boat than I could have ever imagined. These techniques better allow me to put my guests on fish."
Topics Discussed: Spoonbill world record details, live scoping, dipsy divers, blue catfish, walleye in...
Ep. 236: Conservation Day at the Capitol
Apr 09, 2024Brandon Butler interviews several special guests during the 2024 Conservation Day at the Capitol.
Conservation Day was created by Brandon Butler, Nathan "Shags" McLeod, Trevor Morgan, and David Calandro. It is an annual event held at the Missouri Capitol, promoting and supporting our natural resources and outdoor heritage. Citizens and legislators learn about the diverse outdoor passions of Missourians, and recognize our Legislators of the Year for their work protecting our outdoors during legislative session.
Interviews:
Tyler Schwartz - Executive Director of Conservation Federation of Missouri
Kyna Iman - Jefferson City Lobbyist
Rol...
Ep. 235: Tell Us Why You're Special
Apr 02, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Gavin West, Marine Veteran, successful entrepreneur, Naval Academy graduate, Johns Hopkins graduate, and board member of Retrieving Freedom.
Topics Discussed: Time in the service, Beaver Island, upper peninsula Michigan, smallmouth bass, carp, sight fishing redfish in the south, favorite fishing spots in Texas and Louisiana, Retrieving Freedom, Grouse habitat and conservation, favorite places traveled, mystery bait bucket and more.
For More Information:
Retrieving Freedom
Special thanks to:
Living The Dream Outdoor Properties
Superior Foam Insulation LLC
Ep. 234: The Second Largest Archery Tournament in the Nation
Mar 26, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview several MONASP attendees at the annual national tournament in Branson, Missouri.
Archery is a sport for everyone!
With Missouri National Archery in the Schools Program (MoNASP), students in grades 4-12 learn the skill of target archery beginning at the local level with the goal of qualifying for the state, national, and possibly, the world tournament both individually and as teams. This program promotes education, self-esteem and physical activity for Missouri students – regardless of age, size or physical ability. It’s a great team-building experience promoting skills and friendships that last a lif...
Ep. 233: We're Gonna Need a Bigger Net
Mar 19, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan "Shags" McLeod interview Taneycomo Fishing Legend, Duane Doty while fishing in the snow.
"As a guide, my intent is more than just taking a person fishing for a day. I would rather educate clients about the water being fished, and the species pursued, and, then, by easing the learning curve, make it possible for them to return, without a guide, for a productive fishing trip. I enjoy and take great pride in sharing the information, knowledge, and experiences I have learned from my countless hours on the water to help others create great memories...
Ep. 232: Retrieving Freedom
Mar 12, 2024Brandon Butler interviews Vietnam Veteran Ivan and his wife Mary Jo about the difference Retrieving Freedom Inc. has made in their lives.
Retrieving Freedom, Inc. is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization passionately committed to enhancing the lives of Veterans and children with autism through a specialized Service Dog training program. They breed and train chosen dogs that exhibit specific traits necessary to perform tasks to help these individuals, and believe in matching the dog to the client.
Topics Discussed: How they came to realize a service dog could help, the difference Retrieving Freedom has made i...
Ep. 231: Big Rock Candy Mountain
Mar 05, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Roger Franklin, owner of Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Big Rock Candy Mountain Retreat is your vacation destination! Just a mile and a half from the beautiful spring-fed Current River and the Ozark Scenic Riverways, it's home to the best fly fishing, floating and family fun in the state! BRCM is 18 acres of beautiful forest teaming with wildlife, fantastic bird watching, nights filled with fireflies and stories around the fire. You can spend your days filled with the many trail systems for horses, Side-by-Sides, hiking or biking, go kayaking, canoeing or floating and...
Ep. 230: Catching Keepers on Lake Taneycomo
Feb 27, 2024Brandon Butler, Nathan “Shags” McLeod, Savannah "Forever Fiance" Light, and Lauren Plunkett interview Blake Harris while fishing for keepers on Lake Taneycomo.
Blake Harris, Captain at Excel Fishing Charters, is a well-versed angler who has years of fishing experience behind him. He loves taking people out to fish and giving them a great time on the waters.
Topics Discussed: Blake's fancy new boat, using live bait, Brandon's love and fascination with bobber fishing, Gaston's, Taneycomo v. White River, the CFM Media Event, bets on the Superbowl, the love of guiding and things he has lear...
Ep. 229: Chasing Dinosaurs on the Gasconade River Vol. II
Feb 20, 2024Brandon Butler and Nathan “Shags” McLeod interview Tommy Bench, a returning podcast friend and Gasconade River Fishing Guide, as they spend an hour on the water chasing river monsters.
Topics Discussed: Qualifications of a monster, baits he uses, Little Piney Tributary, guide service packages and cabins, Live Scope integration, targeting smallmouth, perks of being a guide, the love and regulations of turkey and deer hunting, catch and release mindset, best outdoor experiences, mystery bait bucket and more.
For More Information:
Gasconade River Guide Service
Ozark Smallmouth Anglers
Gasconade Rive...
Ep. 228: Shags Knocks Eric Baker into the River
Feb 13, 2024Nathan “Shags” McLeod sits down with Eric Baker, Dave Downes, and Tim Flanner to recap the float trip and the incident that will never be forgotten. Splish splash. Eric's taking a bath in the river we no longer speak of.
Topics Discussed: Having a famous son, professional wrestling, Down Syndrome, deer and turkey hunting, bobcat mounts, mystery bait bucket and more.
For More Information:
Baker Banter Facebook
Baker Banter Instagram
Baker Banter Website
Baker Banter TikTok
Special thanks to:
Doolittle Trailers
Smithfly Raft...