Be the Sun, Not the Salt

Be the Sun, Not the Salt

By: Connie Fontaine and Harry Cohen, PhD

Language: en-us

Categories: Education, Self Improvement, Health, Fitness, Mental, Society, Culture

The "Be the Sun, Not the Salt” podcast will inspire you, equip you, and remind you HOW to be the better version of yourself - you already know WHY you should be. Dr. Harry Cohen, an unconventional shrink, and his co-host, innovative marketer Connie Fontaine, will interview famous and not-so-famous guests who make being the Sun, and not the Salt, a daily practice. This podcast is based on the tips from the book, "Be the Sun, Not the Salt."

Episodes

#79 It's So Easy to Do, It's Easy NOT to Do
Jan 08, 2026

What if the biggest difference you make today comes from something so small and simple that you usually skip it? In this Gentle Nudge episode, It’s so easy to do, it’s easy NOT to do, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore how tiny choices - kind or salty - shape your day, your relationships, and your impact far more than you think. 

Here’s what you’ll hear:

The “chapter 31” idea Harry wishes he had squeezed into Be the Sun, Not the Salt and why the book still keeps growing in relevance yea...

Duration: 00:09:56
#78 It's the Little Things: Building Trust with David Horsager
Jan 01, 2026

What if becoming more trustworthy started with something as small as keeping one tiny promise today? In this final guest episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine sit down with trust expert David Horsager to explore why trust is the ultimate competitive advantage and how “little things, done consistently over time” can transform teams, relationships, and entire organizations. 

What you’ll hear

Why trust is not a “soft skill,” but the root cause underneath leadership issues, engagement problems, sales slumps, innovation blocks, and culture breakdowns. The eight pillars of t...

Duration: 00:47:17
#77 How Do I... Not Be the Salt?
Dec 30, 2025

What if the most powerful thing you did today was simply not say the snarky comment in your head? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine zoom in on the often-overlooked half of the heliotropic equation: learning how not to be the salt in big moments and tiny, everyday interactions. 

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why even one sarcastic eye-roll or extra “unnecessary sentence” can hit five times harder than a kind word. How noticing what you don’t say or do can quietly tra...

Duration: 00:06:57
#76 How Do I... Get Comfortable with Being Uncomfortable?
Dec 18, 2025

Ever wish you could feel less awkward, nervous, or unsure when you step into something new? In this “How Do I…” episode of *Be the Sun, Not the Salt*, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine talk about what it really takes to become more comfortable with being uncomfortable, so you can stretch, grow, and still feel like yourself along the way. 

Here’s what you’ll hear:  

Why discomfort is often a sign of learning, not failure, and how experience slowly reshapes your confidence. How gym reps, social “muscles,” and public speaking all reveal the same secret a...

Duration: 00:07:10
#75 How Do I... Practice Self Compassion When I Make a Mistake?
Dec 11, 2025

Ever replay something you did and think, “Wow, I am the absolute worst”? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get real about what it means to practice self-compassion when you mess up, from small everyday slip-ups to the big, public, ego-bruising kind. 

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why beating yourself up is usually just a bad habit in disguise, not deep truth about who you are. How to catch that harsh inner voice in the act and swap it for something kinder...

Duration: 00:10:14
#74 How Do I... Prepare Myself for Life's Challenges?
Dec 04, 2025

Ever feel like life’s curveballs are just waiting to knock you sideways? In this empowering “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore the art of “prehab” over rehab: getting your mind, body, and spirit ready for whatever challenges come your way, so you bounce back stronger instead of just surviving.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why swapping worry for smart preparation can turn potential disasters into manageable momentsThe power of building resilience through everyday “to-dos” that keep you energized and clear-headedHow leaning into physica...

Duration: 00:09:00
#73 How Do I... Create a Daily Gratitude Practice That Actually Sticks?
Nov 20, 2025

Is gratitude journaling just woo-woo nonsense or can you really rewire your brain by writing it all down? In this practical “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get real about gratitude habits that actually work, even for skeptics and self-improvement dropouts.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why you do not need to win a gratitude competition to benefit from the scienceHarry’s “three things and done” system, and the surprisingly powerful effect of keeping it simpleConnie’s journey from eye-rolling cynic to accidental gratitu...

Duration: 00:06:05
#72 How Do I... Deal with Negative People Without Becoming Negative Myself?
Nov 13, 2025

Ever walked away from a conversation feeling like you just inhaled a face full of secondhand negativity? In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine tackle the all-too-common challenge of keeping your own energy bright when the people around you are stuck in a raincloud.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why negativity really is like secondhand smoke (and how to avoid grabbing a “cigarette”)The hidden traps of commiseration and why “ain’t it awful?” can pull you into the gloomSmart ways to empathize, listen, and validate…...

Duration: 00:08:41
#71 How Do I... Age Without Becoming My Worst Self?
Nov 06, 2025

Ever wonder why some people get grumpier, judgier, and more insufferable as they age and vow never to become that person? In this hilariously honest "How Do I…" episode of *Be the Sun, Not the Salt*, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get real about the aging process and their mission to become wise, not just old (and cranky).

Here's what you'll hear:  

Harry's confession about being a "wisdom dispensary machine" and why his son basically told him to zip it during a life coaching moment  Connie's cookie incident with her eight-months-pregnant daughter (spoiler: it i...

Duration: 00:07:47
#70 It's Possible: Lessons in Gratitude with Curt Menefee
Oct 30, 2025

What does it take to thrive under pressure in the fast-paced world of sports broadcasting… and beyond? In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine sit down with Curt Menefee, award-winning sports anchor and commentator, to explore resilience, authenticity, and staying true to your values no matter the spotlight.

Here’s what you’ll hear:  

Curt’s perspective on becoming a leading voice on national sports stages  How preparation, empathy, and genuine connection fuel his confidence on and off the air  The role of humility, perseverance, and family...

Duration: 00:39:16
How Do I... Keep My Cool When Things Are Coming at Me Fast and Furious?
Oct 23, 2025

Ever feel like everything’s coming at you a mile a minute—and you’re about to lose your cool? In this relatable “How Do I…” episode of *Be the Sun, Not the Salt*, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine break down how to stay heliotropic (and human) when life gets fast, furious, and just a little overwhelming.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why your breath might be your secret weapon for holding it all together  The surprising impact your “game face” can have on those around you (and how to use it for good)  What we ca...

Duration: 00:07:55
#68 How Do I... Support Someone Through Illness or Loss?
Oct 16, 2025

When someone you care about is facing illness or loss, it’s easy to feel unsure about what to say or do. In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine open up about the small, thoughtful ways we can support people during life’s hardest chapters—without overthinking or making it about us.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why “just being there” often means more than grand gestures (and what that looks like in real life)The gift of listening without advice or platitudes, and h...

Duration: 00:10:00
#67 How Do I... Handle Criticism Without Getting Defensive?
Oct 09, 2025

Ever feel that sting when someone gives you criticism, even when you know it’s supposed to help? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine take on the surprisingly tough (and super common) challenge of handling feedback without letting defensiveness take over.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why even the kindest of us can get prickly when criticism comes our waySimple moves that can turn a tough conversation into a personal growth momentReal talk about the magic of pausing, breathing, and saying “than...

Duration: 00:09:18
#66 How Do I... Teach My Children to Be Heliotropic?
Oct 02, 2025

Ever wonder how to help the children in your life grow into positive, compassionate, and resilient individuals… the kind of people who naturally bring light to those around them? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dig into what it really takes to teach kids to be heliotropic.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why modeling positivity and practicing it yourself is the foundation when raising children who radiate warmth and kindnessHonest reflections on the messy journey of parenting, including moments we wish we coul...

Duration: 00:09:41
#65 How Do I... Let Go of a Grudge?
Sep 25, 2025

Ever feel stuck holding onto a grudge and know it’s zapping your energy? In this “How Do I…” episode of “Be the Sun, Not the Salt,” Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get real about the challenge of letting go - why so many of us find it hard, how resentment keeps us stuck, and what it actually takes to move on.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why holding a grudge is like clutching a hot coal: you’re the one getting burnedHow compassion (not just forgiveness) can help shift your perspective and lighten your l...

Duration: 00:07:42
#64 How Do I... Show Up Well When I'm Going Through a Difficult Time?
Sep 18, 2025

Ever wonder how to bring your best self to work or home… even when life is just not going your way? In this heartfelt “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dig into the messy, honest art of showing up well when you’re going through a difficult time.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why naming what you’re going through (even if it feels uncomfortable) can strengthen trust, connection, and ease in relationshipsThe power of authentic vulnerability: letting others in without making excuses, and fin...

Duration: 00:07:37
#63 Work That Doesn’t Suck: Erin Hatzikostas on Authenticity & the 50% Rule
Sep 11, 2025

What’s the *real* secret to thriving at work… and in life? In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine sit down with Erin Hatzikostas, former corporate CEO, award-winning author, and globally recognized expert on authenticity in the workplace. If you’ve ever wished for more meaning, originality, or joy in your career, Erin’s wisdom is the breath of fresh air you didn’t know you needed.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why authenticity isn’t just a feel-good buzzword, but a major business advantage in any...

Duration: 00:52:36
#62 How Do I... Listen When I Know I'm Right & They're Wrong?
Sep 04, 2025

Ever get stuck in a conversation where you know you’re absolutely right, and the other person is just completely missing the mark? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get honest about what it takes to actually listen when you’re sure you’ve got the right answer… and someone else doesn’t.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

What real curiosity sounds like, and why “leaning in softly” can shift everything, even in tricky momentsTips for moving beyond “winning” an argument to truly understand...

Duration: 00:08:10
#61 How Do I... Keep My Confidence Despite Rejection?
Aug 28, 2025

Ever wondered how to stay confident when life—and work—keep handing you rejection? In episode 61 of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine answer the tough question: “How Do I… Keep My Confidence Despite Rejection?”

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Relatable strategies for bouncing back after setbacks (even when the numbers feel stacked against you)The “three P’s” mindset trick that keeps rejection from getting personal or invasiveHow to use self-talk and action to reframe your perspective and stay motivatedReal stories and practical ways to turn every “swing and a m...

Duration: 00:08:09
#60 How Do I... Give Feedback That Builds People Up?
Aug 21, 2025

Ever feel a little anxious giving feedback, and worry it won’t land the way you intended? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dig into the art of offering feedback that truly lifts people up and helps them grow.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Why feedback is more than just pointing out what went wrong—and how to make it a gift people actually appreciateThe importance of “accountability with love,” and how holding people to high standards doesn’t mean being harsh or negat...

Duration: 00:09:25
#59 How Do I... Support My Partner During Difficult Times?
Aug 14, 2025

Ever wonder how to support your partner when life takes a tough turn? In this short “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine get honest about the art of showing up for someone you love… especially when you’re both going through it.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

Real-world approaches for recognizing what your partner needs (even when their style is way different from yours)The power of small gestures, from acts of service to words of praise, to lighten someone’s loadHow to stay flexible...

Duration: 00:07:07
#58 How Do I... Be a Positive Presence in Meetings?
Aug 07, 2025

Ever wish meetings didn’t feel so… meh? In this mini “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine tackle the art of being a positive energizer in meetings, whether you’re on Zoom or in the room.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

The simple choices that set the tone in any meetingHow to make an impression before the agenda even startsSubtle ways to shift group energy in a positive directionWhat it means to show up fully—without saying a wordTips for becoming the person everyone’s excited to work wi...

Duration: 00:07:21
#57 How Do I... Light Someone Up?
Jul 31, 2025

Ever wonder how to really light someone up—not just with a passing compliment, but in a way that sticks? In this “How Do I…” episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine roll up their sleeves to share practical ways to intentionally uplift the people around you.

Here’s what you’ll hear:

The magic of specifics: Why “great job” isn’t enough, and how pointing out exactly what impressed you makes praise more meaningful—and memorable.Keeping it real (and brief): How authentic, concise a...

Duration: 00:07:36
#56 Inside Real Wellness: Lori Schulweis & Jenn Giamo on Friendship & Positive Living
Jul 24, 2025

What happens when two powerhouse women from distinctly different professional backgrounds bring science, soul, and a whole lot of humor to the podcast mic? In this inspiring episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine welcome Lori Schulweis, a longtime (Emmy Award-winning!) television producer known for her years on “Live with Mark and Kelly”, and Jenn Giamo, a certified trainer, nutritionist, and longevity coach, from the “Every Body Talks” podcast for a raw, uplifting conversation on the art of heliotropic living and the transformative power of friendship.

Why tune in?

Duration: 00:54:04
#55 How Do I... Start My Day Off Right?
Jul 17, 2025

Ever wonder how to actually practice being the sun, not the salt, in daily life? In our very first episode of the “How Do I…” series, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dig into the practical side of living heliotropically, starting with the question: “How do I start my day off right?”

Here’s what you’ll hear:

- Honest, real-life routines from Harry and Connie, including gratitude lists, positive planning, and morning rituals that set a sunny tone, even on tough days.

- The little daily details that make a big dif...

Duration: 00:09:25
#54 Longevity & Mindset: Dr. Michael Roizen's Tips on Posse, Purpose, & Play
Jul 10, 2025

Ever wondered if you could actually turn back the biological clock? In this game-changing episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine welcome Dr. Michael Roizen—pioneering longevity expert, Chief Wellness Officer Emeritus at the World-Renowned Cleveland Clinic, author of 9 best selling books and 195+ Peer-Reviewed Papers, and Holder of 14 Patents—for a conversation that will completely shift how you think about aging, health, and the choices you make every single day.

Here’s what you’ll discover:

The jaw-dropping truth about mindset: You have power over 93% of your...

Duration: 00:44:47
#53 Our Origin Story: "Be the Sun, Not the Salt"
Jul 03, 2025

Ever wonder how Be the Sun, Not the Salt came to life? In this special origin story episode, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine pull back the curtain on the journey from a single TED Talk to a bestselling book and a podcast that’s sparking positive change around the world.

What’s the story behind the sun and the salt?

Harry shares how the phrase “lead people with an afterglow, not an aftertaste—be the sun, not the salt” first landed, and why it stuck with so many.  Forget the “aha!” moment—this boo...

Duration: 00:12:15
#52 Gentle Nudge: Frickin Do It
Jun 26, 2025

Ever find yourself nodding along to good advice… but not actually putting it into action? You’re not alone! In this final episode of our Gentle Nudge series, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine go all in on Chapter 30: “Frickin Do It”—the ultimate rally cry for turning knowledge into action and making positive habits stick.

Why should you tune in?

Get a burst of motivation to move from “knowing” to “doing”—because real change happens when you take that first step, no matter how small.Hear how Harry and Connie keep it real about the da...

Duration: 00:06:24
#51 Gentle Nudge: Be An Olympic Listener
Jun 19, 2025

Ever wish people really heard you—or that you could be the kind of listener everyone trusts? In this episode of “Be the Sun, Not the Salt,” Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine continue their Gentle Nudge series with Chapter 29: “Be an Olympic Listener”—your invitation to level up from “just hearing” to truly connecting.

Why tune in?

 Listening is an everyday superpower: Discover why being an “Olympic listener” isn’t just for therapists or leaders—it’s for anyone who wants stronger relationships, better communication, and more meaningful moments.More than ears: Learn how to “listen...

Duration: 00:06:35
#50 Gentle Nudge: Practice, Practice, Practice
Jun 12, 2025

Ever feel like there’s a daily battle between your best self and… well, the other one? What if winning was as simple as choosing which one to feed? 🤔 

In this powerful episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine unpack Chapter 28: “Practice, Practice, Practice”—a transformative look at the one habit that changes everything.

Why should you tune in?

Discover the ancient parable of the two wolves and what it reveals about mastering your inner world.Learn the crucial difference between honoring your negative feeli...

Duration: 00:06:23
#49 Gentle Nudge: Do It Anyway
Jun 05, 2025

Ever feel like giving up when things get tough or when others don’t play fair? What if the most powerful choice is to shine your light anyway? 🌟 In this Gentle Nudge episode of “Be the Sun, Not the Salt,” Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dive into Chapter 27: “Do It Anyway”—your ultimate anthem for resilience, perseverance, and choosing to be heliotropic no matter what.

Why should you tune in?

Discover a timeless, powerful message (inspired by Mother Teresa’s wisdom) that will reframe how you face challenges and negativity.Learn how to build your “do it...

Duration: 00:04:33
#48 Gentle Nudge: Fill in the Potholes
May 29, 2025

Ever wondered what it means to make a difference—even when no one’s watching? 🌟 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine guide you through Chapter 26: Fill in the Potholes—a thought-provoking conversation about small acts, big impact, and the quiet magic of doing good.

Why tune in?

Discover how tiny, anonymous gestures can ripple out and change your world—and maybe even someone else’s.Get inspired to spot everyday opportunities to help, uplift, or simply smooth the path for others (and yourself).Hear real-life sto...

Duration: 00:06:13
#47 Gentle Nudge: Decide What Matters Most
May 22, 2025

What really matters—and what’s just noise? In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine invite you to hit pause and reflect with Chapter 25: “Decide What Matters Most.” If you’ve ever felt torn between speaking up or letting something go, this gentle nudge is for you.

What’s the Big Idea?

Discover how to spot the difference between life’s real priorities and those little annoyances that try to steal your peace.Hear how Harry and Connie navigate tricky moments in family, work, and ever...

Duration: 00:09:28
#46 Gentle Nudge: Remember Who You Are
May 15, 2025

Ever catch yourself feeling a little off your game? 🤔 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore Chapter 24: “Remember Who You Are” - your gentle nudge to reconnect with your best self, live authentically, and shine a little brighter every day.

Why does remembering who you are matter?

🌟 Identity shapes action: As James Clear puts it in Atomic Habits, every action you take is a vote for the person you want to become. When you act in line with your core values, everything else flows.🧘‍♂️ Be heliotropic: Showing up as your t...

Duration: 00:09:49
#45 Mastering Your Mind: Ethan Kross on Emotional Regulation & Resilience
May 08, 2025

Ever feel like your emotions are running the show instead of you? 😵‍💫 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, we’re thrilled to welcome Dr. Ethan Kross, world-renowned expert on emotional regulation and bestselling author of Chatter and Shift. Together with Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine, Ethan dives deep into the science and practical tools for managing your inner voice, controlling emotional chatter, and harnessing your feelings instead of being overwhelmed by them.

What you’ll learn:

🧠 How managing your emotions boosts your thinking, performance, relationships, and health🗣️ Why self-talk in the third person...

Duration: 00:57:59
#44 Gentle Nudge: Keep Your Cool
May 01, 2025

Ever lost your cool over something tiny-like spilled coffee or a snarky email-and then realized it set the tone for your whole day? 😬 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine break down Chapter 23: “Keep Your Cool”-your go-to guide for stress management, emotional regulation, and staying calm under pressure.

Why does keeping your cool matter?

🧠 Practice makes peaceful: The more you handle life’s little annoyances with grace, the easier it gets when real crises hit. Think of every minor mishap as a “calmness simulation” for your brain!😌 Your moo...

Duration: 00:07:38
#43 Gentle Nudge: Smile and Move On
Apr 24, 2025

Ever found yourself knee-deep in an argument about chocolate vs. vanilla—or something way more personal, like politics or identity? 🍦🗳️ In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine shine a light on Chapter 22: “Smile and Move On.”

Here’s the real talk:

😁 Smile first, react later: Whether it’s a silly debate about ice cream or a deeply held belief, arguing rarely changes minds—especially when emotions or identities are involved. Instead, genuine conversation (not combat) is what leads to real understanding.🧠 Pick your battles: Not every disagreement needs a winner. Sometimes...

Duration: 00:06:20
#42 Gentle Nudge: Release Your Pet Peeves
Apr 17, 2025

Ever find yourself stewing over little things—like someone being late or leaving the cupboard open (again)? 🙃 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dig into Chapter 21: “Release Your Pet Peeves”—your gentle nudge to let go of those everyday annoyances that just aren’t worth your peace.

What’s the big idea?

🧘‍♂️ Let it go, let it go: Holding onto pet peeves only keeps you mildly irritated and robs you of your own peace of mind.🕵️‍♀️ Assume positive intent: Most of the time, people aren’t out to g...

Duration: 00:08:14
#41 Gentle Nudge: Take the High Road
Apr 10, 2025

Ever felt like you deserved to stay mad? 😡 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine unpack Chapter 20: “Take the High Road”—a powerful reminder that holding onto anger only salts your own roots.

Key takeaways:

🌟 The high road is for YOU: Letting go of petty negativity isn’t about the other person—it’s about freeing yourself.⏳ Work through it: Whether it takes two hours or two weeks, give yourself grace as you move toward letting go.🧠 Don’t “feed the bad wolf”: Gossip a...

Duration: 00:06:36
#40 Gentle Nudge: Make Your Motive Clear & Clean
Apr 03, 2025

Ever had someone say one thing but mean something totally different? 🙃 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dive into Chapter 19: “Make Your Motive Clear and Clean”—a gentle nudge to check your intentions before you speak or act.

Key takeaways:

💡 Say what you mean, mean what you say—but don’t say it mean: The golden rule of clear communication.🧹 Check your motives: Are you being passive-aggressive or trying to “win”? Time for a little self-reflection!🧠 Trust your gut: Why we can often sense when someone’s motives aren’t pure—and ho...

Duration: 00:06:03
#39. Gentle Nudge: Do the Next Right Thing
Mar 27, 2025

Ever had one of those "Oops, I messed up!" moments? In this mini-episode, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine are back with a game-changing mantra in Chapter 18: "Do the Next Right Thing"!

Spoiler alert: We're all gonna be salty sometimes, but it's what you do next that counts!

Harry's hot takes:

🧼 Clean-up on aisle "Me": Why your screw-ups are actually your best teachers 🏃‍♂️ Speed is key: The magic of fixing things ASAP (but it's never too late to make it right)🧠 Trust your gut: If something's nagging you, it's probably worth addressing

Connie's real-talk corner...

Duration: 00:06:39
#38 Gentle Nudge: Help Others Keep Perspective
Mar 20, 2025

Ever tried cheering up a friend… only to accidentally make things worse? Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine are back with a Gentle Nudge from Chapter 17: “Help Others Keep Perspective”—and they’re dishing out gentle wisdom for those “I just want to fix it!” moments.

Hot takes from today’s toolkit:

🩹 Scars, not wounds: Borrowing Rachel Hollis’ genius line, learn why timing matters when offering perspective (hint: wait till the bleeding stops).🧠 Swap “get over it” for “let’s move your lens”: How to metaphorically guide someone to “higher ground” without sounding like a know-it-all.👂 Empathy first, advice second: Harry’s own...

Duration: 00:11:25
#37 Gentle Nudge: Speak Fluent Gratitude
Mar 13, 2025

Ready to supercharge your relationships with a little gratitude magic? 🌟 In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine dive into Chapter 16: “Speak Fluent Gratitude.”

The magic trick? Expressing thanks isn’t just about saying “thanks” – it’s about speaking from the heart with specificity. Harry shares a heartfelt text from a friend that brightened his day, while Connie reveals how a daily gratitude experiment brought unexpected joy to old friends.

Your takeaways:

Speak it out loud: How verbalizing gratitude can transform your relationships and mood.Make it personal: Why...

Duration: 00:06:38
#36 Gentle Nudge: Make Your Words Count
Mar 06, 2025

Ever caught yourself rambling through a story or dropping verbal grenades that backfire? Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine—your Be the Sun, Not the Salt super-smart duo—are back with Chapter 15: “Make Your Words Count.”

Spoiler alert: Less really is more when it comes to communication! Harry spills the tea on why cutting extra or inflammatory words turbocharges your clarity, while Connie shares examples of unhelpful self-talk she’s totally never said to herself. 😉 With some tiny tweaks, we get a big impact, so trim the fluff, ditch the drama, and remember that practice makes precision.

Perfect...

Duration: 00:06:10
#35 Gentle Nudge: Don't Be A Complexifier
Feb 27, 2025

Have you ever turned a simple task into a full-blown project? We’ve all been there! In this episode of Be the Sun, Not the Salt, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine tackle Chapter 14, “Don’t Be a Complexifier,” from Harry’s book. Together, they unpack why simplicity is not only powerful but also essential for improving our lives and relationships.

We’ll explore how overthinking and complicating things can weigh us down—and how keeping it simple can be a game-changer, everywhere from military strategy to daily life.

You’ll also hear practical tips on how to:

Av...

Duration: 00:05:59
#34 Gentle Nudge: Be Your Own Best Friend
Feb 20, 2025

Have you ever called yourself a friggin idiot? Most of us have, but would you ever say that to your best friend? Nope! In today’s tip to make your life a little better, Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore Chapter 13, 'Be Your Own Best Friend,' from Harry's book, Be the Sun, Not the Salt. Today we’ll delve into how to recognize and STOP the negative self-talk. While it’s true that we’re evolutionarily wired to focus on negativity for survival, it's crucial to disrupt this tendency for a healthier mental state! We’ll get into perso...

Duration: 00:10:40
#33 Gentle Nudge: Hold the Salt
Feb 13, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore the key concepts of Chapter 12, 'Hold the Salt,' from Harry's book. We’ll discuss the metaphorical significance of salt and how toxic behaviors can negatively impact others. We know that by refraining from expressing negative emotions and behaviors, we create a more positive and supportive environment. Here we’ll provide practical insights and real-life examples to illustrate the profound effect of avoiding 'salting the roots' of others.

Links & Resources

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Duration: 00:09:05
#32 Gentle Nudge: Learn to Walk Away
Feb 06, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore the concept of walking away from toxic environments, as described in Chapter 11, 'Learn to Walk Away' from Harry's book. Our discussion drills into the importance of gracefully extricating oneself from negative situations, whether they be physical, emotional, or conversational. With practical advice and personal anecdotes, the episode offers insights on maintaining composure, avoiding conflict, and making deliberate choices about the company we keep, especially during challenging times - and we've all got them!

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Duration: 00:07:01
#31 Gentle Nudge: Don't Hang with Cilantro
Jan 30, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore Chapter 10, 'Don't Hang with Cilantro,' from Harry's book. (Did you know cilantro tastes like soap to some people?) This chapter highlights the importance of being and surrounding oneself with good company. We’ll discuss maintaining healthy boundaries to protect ourselves from negative influences, and share practical advice on limiting contact with toxic individuals and finding common ground to improve difficult relationships. We’ll also go over the types of people we SHOULD surround ourselves with - the ones who...

Duration: 00:07:38
#30 Gentle Nudge: Win-Win Always Wins
Jan 23, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine delve into Chapter 9, 'Win Win Always Wins,' from Harry's book. We discuss how to keep a win-win mindset in various scenarios, and the importance of ensuring positive outcomes for all parties involved. Through real-life examples and insights, we’ll dig into how this approach can lead to more harmonious and effective interactions. By integrating this mindset into our daily lives, we can foster fairness and mutual satisfaction in all kinds of relationships.

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Duration: 00:07:02
#29 Gentle Nudge: Assume Positive Intent
Jan 16, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine delve into Chapter 8, 'Assume Positive Intent,' from Harry's book. We discuss the profound impact of interpreting others' actions positively rather than jumping to negative conclusions. Through personal anecdotes and practical examples, we’ll explore how shifting one's perspective can improve overall life experience and interpersonal relationships. Try practicing this mindset to foster a more positive and empathetic daily life. 

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Duration: 00:07:57
#28 Radiant Resilience: Jill Martin's Journey Through Life's Challenges
Jan 09, 2025

In this heartfelt episode, we sit down with Jill Martin to explore her inspiring journey from a renowned lifestyle expert and TV personality to a resilient cancer warrior. Jill shares personal anecdotes about her battle with breast cancer, the lessons she’s learned, and how she strives to live by the philosophy of 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt.' We delve into Jill's professional accomplishments, including her successful ventures on QVC and the Today Show, as well as her deeply personal mission to help others facing similar challenges. Jill’s authenticity shines through as she discusses the importance of k...

Duration: 00:57:35
#27 Gentle Nudge: Apologize Well
Jan 01, 2025

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore Chapter 7, 'Apologize Well,' from Harry's book. They discuss the importance of making heartfelt apologies without justifications or excuses. By sharing personal experiences and practical insights, they highlight the key elements of a genuine apology — acknowledging the hurt caused and expressing honest regret. Listeners are encouraged to practice and refine their apologizing skills to foster more meaningful and respectful relationships.

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Duration: 00:08:38
#26 Gentle Nudge: Light Someone Up
Dec 25, 2024

In today’s episode, Dr. Harry Cohen and co-host Connie Fontaine explore Chapter 6, 'Light Someone Up,' from the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' book. They delve into the concept of heliotropic people, discussing the science behind heliotropism and the characteristics that make someone a positive energizer. They emphasize the importance of being intentionally uplifting, kind, and compassionate in everyday interactions. By sharing tips and personal stories, they encourage listeners to consciously make others feel good, amplify their positive traits, and set a positive tone in various settings, from the workplace to family life.

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Duration: 00:09:49
#25 Creating Big Change through Small Acts with Brad Aronson
Dec 18, 2024

Join us for an inspiring discussion with Brad Aronson, author of 'Humankind: Changing the World One Small Act at a Time.' Brad shares his journey of discovering the profound impact of small gestures of kindness, especially during difficult times. He emphasizes the importance of being seen (and what that really means) and the power of simple actions to make a huge difference in the lives of others, and for ourselves, in return. Brad also talks to us about his impressive background in digital marketing and entrepreneurship, his teaching experiences, and his dedication to mentoring and nonprofit work. The...

Duration: 01:01:04
#24 Gentle Nudge: Be Your Best Self
Dec 11, 2024

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, co-hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine delve into Chapter 5, 'Be Your Best Self,' from Harry's book. They discuss the power and simplicity of showing up in our own uniquely heliotropic ways, to authentically bring our best to any situation. We don’t have to pretend to be anybody else; we just have to bring out our best traits more often. By sharing personal stories and empirical insights, they emphasize the importance of self-awareness and continuous personal growth - sometimes what we others think are our mo...

Duration: 00:07:47
#23 Gentle Nudge: Show You Care
Dec 04, 2024

In this special mini-episode of 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt,' hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine discuss Chapter 4, 'Show You Care,' from Harry’s book. We’ll explore the deeper aspects of genuine and authentic caring, emphasizing the importance of expressing love and appreciation in meaningful ways. Connie and Harry stress that caring is a learnable skill, and share the ways they’ve personalized their expressions of care for the people in their lives. They also touch on the challenges and the impact of being honest about what one cares about, especially with intimate relationships. Tune i...

Duration: 00:08:57
#22 The Empowered Life: Cultivating Strength & Kindness with Rachel Hollis
Nov 26, 2024

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Rachel Hollis, who opens up about her remarkable journey from lifestyle blogger to best-selling author.​ Rachel's candid stories reveal how life's twists and turns have shaped her into the motivational powerhouse she is today.

Rachel's infectious energy shines through as she discusses her upcoming book, 'What If YOU Are the Answer?' a hard-won guide for self discovery that guides readers on a journey through thought-provoking questions. Her passion for helping others find their path is evident in every word. 

Throughout the episode, Rachel emphasizes the importance of sel...

Duration: 00:57:33
#21 Gentle Nudge: Respect People's Feelings
Nov 20, 2024

Today we have a new "Gentle Nudge" mini-episode, where we take a deep dive into each chapter, breaking down each tip into actionable examples so that we can each practice being our best selves in new ways. In this episode of 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt,' co-hosts Dr. Harry Cohen and Connie Fontaine explore the vital importance of respecting others and their feelings. From the famous Maya Angelou quote about the lasting impact of how we make others feel, through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they emphasize the significant influence our behavior has on both personal and...

Duration: 00:10:30
#20 Gentle Nudge: Be Helpful
Nov 13, 2024

Today we have a new "Gentle Nudge" mini-episode, where we take a deep dive into each chapter, breaking down each tip into actionable examples so that we can each practice being our best selves in new ways. Co-hosts Connie Fontaine and Dr. Harry Cohen explore Chapter 2 from the "Be the Sun, Not the Salt" book: “Be Helpful.” We chat about what that really means and how to determine what help is genuinely wanted by others, why giving unsolicited advice might not be the best move, and we’ll explore practical tips on how to think before we speak (especially in tho...

Duration: 00:07:55
#19 Gentle Nudge: Do All the Good You Can
Nov 07, 2024

Today's episode is the first of our "Gentle Nudge" series of mini-episodes, where we take a deep dive into each chapter, breaking down each tip into actionable examples so that we can each practice being our best selves in new ways. Co-hosts Connie Fontaine and Dr. Harry Cohen explore Chapter 1 from the "Be the Sun, Not the Salt" book, entitled "Do All the Good You Can." The discussion delves into the importance of small acts of kindness inspired by a famous John Wesley quote, emphasizing immediate and tangible impacts on both the doer and the receiver. From the biggest...

Duration: 00:06:00
#18 Harnessing Anxious Energy: Life Lessons from Laura Morton
Oct 03, 2024

In this episode of the 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' podcast, we dive deep into the life and wisdom of Laura Morton, a prolific author and filmmaker, known for her work on the documentary 'Anxious Nation.' With over 22 New York Times bestselling books to her name, Laura shares invaluable insights from her journey as a storyteller, a breast cancer survivor, and a single parent. The discussion unpacks Laura's advocacy for mental health, especially through her documentary, which addresses the rising anxiety among youth and provides tools to manage it. Laura shares personal anecdotes and lessons learned from...

Duration: 01:01:30
#17 The Wise Warrior: Commanding a Resilient Team with Adam Kahnke
Aug 07, 2024

In this episode, Commander Adam Kahnke, a highly accomplished (yet incredibly humble) naval officer, shares his 30-year journey in the U.S. Navy and the teams he’s built along the way. Currently serving at the Pentagon, Kahnke discusses his unique experience in developing the command of the USS Arkansas from scratch while applying the principles of 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt' to create a positive and high-performing culture. Kahnke emphasizes how focusing on interpersonal skills and mental health is essential in both the military and business environments. He introduces his approach to leadership that's built on respect, ac...

Duration: 00:52:02
#16 Miracle Mentality: Using Your Gifts with Tim Storey
Jul 24, 2024

Step into the ring with Tim Storey, the legendary 'Comeback Coach,' as he unveils the secret weapons for life's toughest battles. In this episode, Storey shares his remarkable journey from a childhood in Compton to working with some of the world's most influential figures, including Barry Gordy and Oprah Winfrey. In this insightful conversation, Storey offers a unique perspective on life's challenges and triumphs:

How to choose your ultimate 'corner man' and build an inner circle that propels you to greatnessStrategies for mastering the mundane and navigating life's messinessTransforming difficulties into opportunities for growthWhy expecting daily miracles...

Duration: 01:00:32
#15 Gratitude in Action: From Morning TV to Motherhood with Joan Lunden & Jamie Hess
Jul 02, 2024

In this heartfelt episode, hosts Connie Fontaine and Dr. Harry Cohen delve into the profound lessons learned from Joan Lunden and her daughter, Jamie Hess. Joan reflects on her journey as a national morning show anchor of Good Morning America for nearly 20 years, navigating motherhood and demonstrating the power of embracing one's vulnerabilities while maintaining a positive, authentic presence. Jamie shares her past struggles with addiction, her path to recovery, and how gratitude reshaped her life. Together, they emphasize the importance of being real, the power of showing vulnerability, and creating a nurturing, truthful environment for their children. The...

Duration: 00:59:23
#14 The Company We Keep: Choosing Role Models with Ira Rosen
Jun 18, 2024

In this episode, Harry, Connie, and their guest Ira Rosen, a 24-time Emmy-winning investigative journalist formerly with 60 Minutes, discuss the importance of positive influences, making conscious choices, and the profound impacts of role models, both good and bad. Ira shares his family's history of survival during World War II, offering a poignant lesson on the choices between good and evil. He also talks about his career challenges, stresses around high-stakes journalism, and how he found joy and fulfillment in the smallest yet significant aspects of life.

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Duration: 00:46:14
#13 "Unreasonable" Hospitality: Being Nice and Cozy with Will Guidara
Jun 05, 2024

In this engaging episode, Will Guidara, a pioneering figure in the world of fine dining and hospitality, and the author of “Unreasonable Hospitality,” joins hosts Connie Fontaine and Harry Cohen. Will delves into the philosophy and practical applications of 'Unreasonable Hospitality,' sharing impactful stories from his career, including the origins of his concept and how it can be applied beyond the restaurant industry. The conversation also covers the importance of hospitality in creating meaningful relationships, the impact of small gestures, the forgotten art of friendship, transforming criticism into thoughtful guidance, and maintaining a balance between perfectionism and kindness. We’l...

Duration: 01:03:39
#12 Good Medicine: Rethinking Patient Care with Dr. Rana Awdish
May 22, 2024

Dr. Rana Awdish shares her profound journey from being a critical care physician to a patient fighting for her life, and how this experience revolutionized her perspective on patient care. After losing an unborn child and nearly losing her own life due to a burst tumor, Rana witnessed firsthand the gaps in the healthcare system, particularly in how medical professionals handle emotional care and communicate with patients. Her experience led her to advocate for a healthcare approach that emphasizes empathy, effective communication, and the small yet impactful acts of care that can significantly alter a patient's experience. Her story...

Duration: 00:43:18
#11 Stay in the Light: Surviving Trauma with Trinea Gonczar
May 16, 2024

Trinea Gonczar, a former gymnast and survivor of the Larry Nassar sexual assault case, shares her ongoing journey from trauma to healing and how she helps others find light in their darkest times. We discuss the importance of offering grace to oneself and others, and Trinea’s impactful work at the Avalon Healing Center, and the need for survivors to have support systems and plans in place to navigate their healing journeys. The episode highlights the significance of every individual's courageous choice to spread positivity and support those around them.

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Duration: 00:39:42
#10 Mindy Holman
Jan 15, 2024

Mindy Holman is the Chair of Holman, a privately owned 100 year old automotive services company with over 7000 employees in the US, Canada, Mexico, UK, and Germany. As the third generation leader of a company whose stated mission is to provide a rewarding career and a better life for their employees and their families, she takes that mission to heart. Mindy, in fact, is as much responsible for "Be the Sun, Not the Salt" as anyone. She wrote the forward to the book and embodies the principles articulated in it. She gets uncomfortable when we compare her to Mother Theresa...

Duration: 00:47:16
#9 Farzin Shadpour
Jan 08, 2024

Farzin Shadpour started a venture capital fund which has invested in over 58 start up companies from countries all over the world. Two of those startups now have a valuation of over one billion dollars - a “unicorn“ in investment terms. Identifying as a high functioning neuro-diverse autistic person, Farzin articulates the points he practices from "Be the Sun, Not the Salt," which he describes as a concise “hand book” for how to relate to all people at home and at work. He shares the ways he brings these points to life in order to earn a seat at the table of...

Duration: 00:42:44
#8 Kathy White
Jan 01, 2024

Kathy White is not only remarkable in her lifelong accomplishments - Princeton graduate, Rhodes Scholar, Law Professor, Brigadier General, University of Michigan Regent - she is equally committed to being a better person. In this episode, Kathy shares why the metaphor and the book, 'Be the Sun, Not the Salt,' has been such a helpful tool for her and her colleagues. Listen to how her team of leaders from the different branches of the US Armed Forces remind themselves - daily - to be their best selves, and how that impacts their ability to collaborate. For those of...

Duration: 00:39:19
#7 Marion Harris
Dec 25, 2023

Marion Harris, CEO of Ford Motor Credit, is a successful captain of industry and a serious practitioner of heliotropic leadership. He shares his tips for success in the corporate world, as someone who’s learned from leaders both good and not-so-good. As you’ll hear from him, the most important leadership trait is to care enough to want to be a better leader. Our nickname for this podcast is, “If you’re not having fun, you’re not doing it right.”

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Duration: 00:42:37
#6 Kristi VandenBosch
Dec 18, 2023

Kristi VandenBosch is the President of the Oliver advertising agency in NYC. Having grown up in the advertising industry and achieving top-tier success, her advice to young professionals in the field is to never compromise your values or your voice. Through compelling examples, she illustrates how she has effectively stepped in to assist others, encouraging all of us to follow suit—if we possess the courage and confidence to do so in our unique ways. This episode is affectionately dubbed "Be the Wise Sunflower" and invites us to "Do a 'Kristi'" by stepping into the fray.

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Duration: 00:35:07
#5 Corey Fried
Dec 11, 2023

Corey Fried, who has taught second grade, third grade, and fifth grade, has transitioned into an educator for fellow teachers. She transformed the insights from the book "Be the Sun, Not the Salt" into daily lesson plans for her students, leading to remarkable results. This podcast is affectionately named "I Want to Be THAT Teacher." As you listen to her story, we hope it inspires you to strive for the best version of yourself.

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Duration: 00:37:23
#4 Kim Cameron
Nov 27, 2023

Kim Cameron is the William Russell Kelly Professor of Management and Organizations at the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. He is the godfather of the term "heliotropic leadership." His research proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that being a heliotropic person can transform our lives, and the lives of the people around us. As you listen to the studies he cites, we hope that you are forever changed, knowing that the moment-to-moment decisions we make have profound implications for the success of our lives. The nickname for this episode is “We are Born Inherently Go...

Duration: 00:51:02
#3 Valorie Kondos Field
Nov 20, 2023

Valorie Kondos Field is the retired UCLA women's gymnastics coach and  PAC 12 Coach of the Century. In this episode, she reflects on the realization that she was inadvertently hindering her players' growth instead of fostering their potential - salting their roots instead of pouring sun onto their leaves. Valorie's story serves as a powerful reminder that change is possible when we are open to listening. Whether in the role of a parent or a coach, she emphasizes that our mission remains consistent—to bring out the absolute best in those under our care. This episode is affectionately named "Remind You...

Duration: 00:55:56
#2 Duncan Campbell
Nov 20, 2023

Duncan Campbell, a retired entrepreneur turned philanthropist, is the visionary behind the national non-profit organization, Friends of the Children. While some folks merely talk about doing things and making a difference, Duncan is a true action-taker. A doer. Duncan's work has reshaped the futures of thousands of children born into poverty. This podcast, aptly nicknamed "Just Fricken Do It," introduces Duncan's remarkable journey. We hope it will inspire you to take meaningful action for the greater good.

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Duration: 00:33:15
#1 Kevin Shaughnessy
Nov 20, 2023

Kevin Shaughnessy is a world-class human being and remarkable leader of a 1200-person automotive dealership organization. We chose him as our first Be the Sun podcast guest because he embodies the principles of what it means to be a heliotropic leader as well as anyone we’ve met. We call this "the bagel and schmear" episode, and you'll soon understand why. When you hear Kevin's story, we hope it stays with you and inspires, reminds, and helps you just like it has done for us.

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Duration: 00:40:28
Be the Sun, Not the Salt trailer
Oct 20, 2023

"Be the Sun, Not the Salt" is a podcast about Heliotropic Living, an idea based on the science of why we are drawn to some behaviors and recoiled by others. To spread the message, we did a Tedx talk, then wrote a short book, and now we’re doing a podcast. Here we’ll interview a range of famous and not so famous guests whose personal stories bring to life how they (and we) can put these simple ideas into daily practice. Anyone who listens will be infected in a good way, to be and spread what it means to b...

Duration: 00:02:45