Driven By Details Podcast

Season 4 of the Driven By Details podcast kicks off with a conversation that’s less about grinding harder—and more about moving forward with clarity and intention.

In this episode, my wife Andrea joins the show to explore the difference between goals and intentions, and why mindset plays such a critical role in both business and personal growth. Together, we reflect on the lessons learned throughout 2025, the cyclical nature of running a business, and what it really takes to stay grounded during both growth periods and slower seasons.

Andrea shares insights from her work in psyc...

I sat down with David from Oberk Car Care for a powerhouse conversation to close out 2025. We recapped the year, broke down some of the biggest SEMA projects—including the incredible Ringbrothers Aston Martin DBS build—and reflected on how far the industry has come this year.

We also dug into the culture of detailing in 2025: the shifts we’re seeing, the challenges, the growth, and how brands and technicians are evolving together. David shared insight into Oberk’s newest product releases, what inspired them, and how they fit into the way modern technicians are working.

If you...

In this special Thanksgiving episode, Matthew takes a step back from the usual interviews to reflect on one of the most challenging—and transformative—years of his entrepreneurial journey.

From unexpected home renovation delays to juggling two growing businesses and battling through a sudden lapse in business insurance, this episode is a candid look at how setbacks, uncertainty, and “difficult times” can still become moments of growth. Matthew opens up about the pressure, the derailments, and the grind of staying consistent while running a micro-business that never slows down.

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Ruben, someone I had the privilege of working alongside early in my career. Our story goes back to the days when we were grinding it out in the shop together, learning the ins and outs of detailing and supporting each other as we built our skills. Eventually, I was able to connect Ruben with an opportunity at a friend’s dealership, and it has been incredible to watch him thrive in that environment.

Ruben has a real gift for interior detailing and carpet care—a side of the...

“Welcome back to the Driven By Details Podcast.

Today’s episode is a special one — and our longest yet.

Almost two hours of unfiltered conversation packed with insights, stories, and lessons you won’t want to miss.

We dive deep into Gabe Madina background in detailing! Covering everything from how he got into the industry to events that led him down the road to Entrepreneurship , and even some behind-the-scenes experiences that most people never get to hear about.

If you’re passionate about detailing, business, or just love hearing real conversations from peopl...

🎙 New Episode of Driven By Details

In this episode, I sit down with David from Oberk Car Care to recap the recent Gloss University Grand Opening. We had a fantastic turnout, and if you couldn’t make it, this episode gives you an inside look at what went down!

We also dive into car culture from a detailing enthusiast’s perspective — sharing our passion for the craft and community.

Later in the show, David gives us a sneak peek at some exciting new products Oberk has been developing behind the scenes.

👉 Tune in, enj...

🎙 New Episode of Driven By Details In this latest episode, I stepped outside the usual format and just spoke directly to the camera—no script, no filter.

I opened up about a recent personal experience: dealing with a frustrating and drawn-out roofing project. This situation pushed me to the edge and made me question the values of some people in the trades—specifically, the difference between pride in your craft and chasing a quick buck.

Through all the setbacks, I found a new level of appreciation for what real craftsmanship looks like—and how much I value i...

In this episode of Driven By Details, I sit down with Steve, the owner of Suppressed Details, based in Santa Rosa, CA.

Steve isn’t new to the detailing industry, but he recently made the big jump to full-time professional detailing. He’s transformed his home garage into a high-level detailing studio, specializing in paint corrections, ceramic coatings, and top-tier detailing work.

In this episode, we dive into: ✅ Steve’s journey before going full-time in detailing ✅ The highs and lows of running a small business ✅ Industry trends & challenges every detailer faces

This one is packed wi...

In this episode of the Driven By Details podcast, host Driven By Details welcomes Beau Mulher, a passionate detailer who shares his journey into the detailing industry.

From learning the basics of car care from his father to transitioning into a professional detailer, Beau discusses the challenges and triumphs he faced along the way. The conversation delves into the importance of mentorship, the learning curve associated with mastering detailing techniques, and the significance of finding opportunities in the automotive field.

Beau emphasizes the value of continuous learning and setting standards for personal growth, making this...

🎙️ Episode 2 of Season 3 brings you an inspiring conversation with Thad Sullivan from Endurance Auto Detailing!

Thad’s passion for the detailing industry is exceptional, and he’s constantly pushing himself to learn more and take on challenging projects. From standard interior and exterior services to advanced techniques like wet sanding and show car detailing, Thad’s dedication to his craft truly sets him apart.

In this episode, we dive into Thad’s journey—how he got started in the world of auto detailing, the lessons he’s learned along the way, and what drives his passion for creat...

Season 3 of Driven By Details is Here!

I’m thrilled to kick off Season 3 of the Driven By Details Podcast! 🎙️ This season is loaded with new guests, live streams, and even more insights to keep you ahead in the detailing industry.

New episodes drop every Thursday—mark your calendars!

To start the season, I’m joined by fellow podcaster Alex Russell from The Detail Solutions Podcast. In this episode, we dive into what the detailing industry might look like in 2025—covering everything from pricing and sales to service trends and how big corporate money is resh...

Matt and David from Gloss University highlight the exciting training events planned 2025! With lots of planning and preparation, we’ve curated a wide range of classes designed to give our students the opportunity to choose the training that best fits their interests and goals. This year, we’re taking our hands-on learning experience to the next level. A few classes will hit the road at special locations across the country, while others will be hosted at the state-of-the-art Gloss University facility—which will soon be celebrating its one-year anniversary this March.

From immersive 4-day boot camps and focuse...

In this deeply personal and insightful episode, my wife and I sit down to discuss the importance of mental health and how it intersects with both personal and professional growth. Through an honest and open conversation, we explore the highs and lows of entrepreneurship, relationships, and the journey toward self-discovery.

Join us as we dive into these impactful topics, offering actionable insights, heartfelt reflections, and a celebration of growth through the challenges of life. Whether you're navigating entrepreneurship, prioritizing mental health, or simply looking for inspiration, this episode is packed with value and connection.<...

In this episode, I talk about training, Gloss University and showcase some highlights form our recent training at the new Gloss U Headquarters

Hard to believe that its September of 2024. Its also hard to believe that we are coming up on two years since the first episode of DBD back in November of 2022.

Some changes coming for the next season of the podcast. We are expanding the Gloss University Trainings for 2025 and have some exciting announcements coming soon.

If you have not yet had a chance to see the Documentary video recapping this...

We are just about one week away from our first advanced wet sanding and paint correction class a the new Gloss University Headquarters. We have been working on the new facility since March and we are finally set up to hold our first of many trainings.

This one is special because it is our first event at the new building. We have been looking for a building just about as long as we have been talking about it. Now that Gloss University has a headquarters, it will allow us to hold more frequent trainings.

In...

This episode I am joined by Alex Russell from The Detailing Solutions Podcast. I originally met Alex in the summer of 2022 at our advanced training that took place at the RingBrothers in Spring Green WI. We share a few stories from that training event and Alex shares a few stories from his recent training at Reds Detail with Jescar and Anglewax.

We move onto talking about ceramic coatings and before wrapping up the podcast Alex takes us back to 2020 and how he started his own podcast.

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This year marks a year of growth and expansion. We have been working hard behind the scenes to build out the new Gloss University Headquarters. We are also very excited about our up coming classes kicking off this summer and into the fall.

In this episode of DBD I am joined by David Patterson from Oberk Car Care. We discuss some of the new additions to the Oberk line and upcoming training for the season. We have been busy doing some dealership classes this spring are excited to host more events in the future at the new...

In this episode of Driven By Details, I sit down with Tony from Shine Effects Auto Spa.

Tony has deep passion for this industry and his story is really inspiring. Like many entrepreneurs trying to make their business thrive, often times we struggle to get the business running smoothly and consistently. Tony has experienced many ups and downs during his six years in business.

As the episode unfolds we talk about how he got stated detailing and how training really help give him the push needed to grow his small business. Tony has recently relocated...

Spring is in the air and we are getting ready for a busy season ahead. This year will be a year of growth as we begin construction at the new Gloss University Headquarters. We have a ton of cool things planned for the future and are looking forward to the build out of the new space for Gloss University.

In this Episode I sit down with David to talk about our recent training at a local New Car Dealer Group. This week long training involved lots of learning for both the students and the instructors. We have...

The year is off to a busy start. We are expanding into new things this year. Gloss University has found a place to call home and we are looking forward to this next chapter.

Training and education has been our focus and we have so much to work towards over this coming year. Thank you for everyones support!

In this episode of Driven By Details, I sit down with Jason and David to talk about pricing in 2024. I am still heavily involved in the car wash industry and recently read through the new Auto Laundry magazine. The January 2024 issue released a new "Detailing Survey" that highlights some of the average price points of detailing services across the country. It was shocking to me as I read how cheap some of these a la carte services are listed at freestanding shops across the county. It had me begin to think about my own pricing for service.

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In this episode of Driven By Details, we are joined by Craig Stewert from Rossland British Columbia. Craig's backstory and his years driving a truck, really sets the tone for how he got into metal polishing and the passion he shares for a clean truck. Craig spends lots of his time on the road traveling to his clients to offer his services. Even thought his main focus is metal polishing, he is still offers detailing services for his clients.

As the episode progresses, we talk about the climate in Canada, and how Ceramic Coatings do not hold...

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On this episode of Driven By Details, Jason Killmer joins me while we sit down to talk with Gary Robinett form Motorsports Distributing. Gary shares stories from the past and present day with his more than 30 year in automotive and detailing. I was eager to have Gary on the podcast to discuss the detailing industry. Gary has a passion for his work along with his customers and is always eager to educate his clients. This industry has seen many advancements over the last 30 years. Its certainly cool to look back and see how far we...

On this episode of Driven By Details, Jason Killmer joins me while we sit down to talk with Gary Robinett form Motorsports Distributing. Gary shares stories from the past and present day with his more than 30 year in automotive and detailing. I was eager to have Gary on the podcast to discuss the detailing industry. Gary has a passion for his work along with his customers and is always eager to educate his clients. This industry has seen many advancements over the last 30 years. Its certainly cool to look back and see how far we have come, and also...

In this episode I am joined by Niko from M&V AutoBody & Sales. This is a special episode for me, specifically because I have know this family for two decades now. One of my first deliveries back in my sales days was here at M&V Auto Body in the early 2000's. At that time Niko was just a young boy that I occasionally would see form time to time. Fast forward to present day time, and Niko has some years under his belt now working with his brothers and his father. Niko's father Vince, started the business back...

I had the chance to reconnect with Tou this past summer at Gloss University. Tou originally attended the very first class back in 2020 but this time came back as a guest instructor for the 2023 class. It's always a pleasure to work with passionate people that share a similar story and vision. Tou's story is far off from my own story of working a full time job waiting for the right time to make the jump into running your own business full time. I believe that many entrepreneurs have a difficult time knowing when, or even if there is a...

As the detailing industry has expanded over the last decade, the Long Throw DA's have made such a huge impact on how paint is being polished today. Because the DA Polisher has grown in popularity, it has also driven the advancement in new pads and liquids to accommodate this polishing system. But what about the Rotary Polisher? Does it still have a place in modern detailing? Is one really better than another? There has been lots of controversy on social media about this topic. So much that I just wanted to talk about it on the podcast. In my...

In this episode of Driven By Detail's I am joined by David Patterson to talk about working on the SEMA cars for the RingBrothers.

The RingBrothers have been building world class custom cars for longer than I have been alive. It has been a really honer to have this opportunity to prepare some some of these cars for SEMA this past season. Long days and nights to get the job complete but totally worth the outcome. If you have not yet seen Oberk's behind the scenes video here is the link. Thanks For Listening!

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Driven By Details Is Back For A Second Season!

After a short break in October Driven By Details is back with new episodes this fall. On this episode I am joined by David Patterson and we talk about the Gloss University class back in September at Robby Layton's Shop in Ephraim Utah. This was our first time doing our new "Detailing 360 Course" We had a great group of students that came from near and far for this one day course.

After two nights in Utah, David and I were off to California to spend the...

Septembers podcasts have been focused around Small Business and we are wrapping up the month with Fill Cassata from VIP Express Car Wash. Fill has been in the industry for over three decades and began his journey as a mobile detailer in the 90's. Shorty after that, Fill bought a Hand Car Wash that became very successful. Mattie actually spent a summer working for Fill part time at the hand car wash. Fill eventually sold the Hand Car Wash and ending up purchasing a small tunnel "Soft Cloth Car Wash" that we know today as VIP Express Car Wash. <...

In this episode of Driven By Details Mattie and Killmer sit down with the owner of On Tour Brewing Company Mark Legenza. On Tour Brewing Co. located in Chicago has such a great vibe in a cozy tap room. Along with making some really tasty beverage's you can catch live music at the brewery many nights throughout the week.

This is where Mattie and Mark first had the chance to meet. This past summer at a weekend show Mattie and Mark had a really great conversation about business. Mark was being honest and vulnerable about some of...

Jason and Mattie are keeping the small business theme going through the month of September. We are calling it "Small Business September"

In this episode of Driven By Details Mattie shares a story about his neighbor that started up a landscaping business as a side hustle. A little over a year after starting his business, he has decided to close up shop and sell off all his equipment.

Small Business is the backbone of our society and plays a major role in our economy. The car washing, detailing, and auto body & collision industry is made...

In this episode of Driven By Details Jason and Mattie sit down and continue the conversation of the small business struggles. Owning, operating and growing a small business comes with many challenges that continually haunt the business owner. Small business is very rewarding but it also can be scary when things are not going how you planned. As this episode progresses, Mattie dives into some car washing stories from his days in the field working with other small business. We also talk about modern tunnel car washes and how they can harm paint finishes. Additionally we share some details...

Mattie & Killmer sit down to catch up on a new episode of Driven By Details. As we are halfway through the month of August both Jason Killmer and Mattie are feeling a little burnt out as we are both dealing with the "Small Business" struggle. Running and operating your own business is very rewarding, however it does come with a set of challenges that never seem to go away or get easy to manage.

Killmer was just back in Nebraska working on a few show cars, and Mattie had a few days away for service work as...

Gloss University 2023 at the RingBrothers in Spring Green Wisconsin.

Killmer and Mattie sit down to talk about the busy calendar, and some of the projects that Jason has been working on leading up to this summers Gloss University advanced class.

This years class at the RingBrothers was really special, with a great group of students eager to learn. This two day advanced training offered great hands on learning on some really awesome cars. This was an advanced class based around wet sanding and paint correction, with a mixed group of students from across the country...

In this episode we are going back in time to learn about how the idea for Gloss University was born. I am joined by Eron Knox and David Patterson as we sit down to talk about Gloss University's up coming class at the RingBrothers in Spring Green Wisconsin on July 29th and 30th 2023.

For the last few years, Gloss University has held group training classes at the RingBrothers headquarters. Every class has been a experience to remember for everyone involved, and we are super excited for this years event.

If you are a looking to...

The detail industry has changed so much in the last 10 years. In this episode, we talk about a few of the benchmark things that have changed the industry. Specifically, the long throw DA polisher and the microfiber pad is a main topic in this episode. Since the introduction of these two items we have watched the industry explode with many companies making DA polishers, along with all kinds of pad innovations. The DA polishers and the microfiber buffing pad has allowed many beginner detailers to enter the industry and achieve good results without any experience or training. Jason Killmer...

In this episode of Driven By Details, Jason & Mattie sit down and share some stories of when things go wrong. Mattie shares a recent story about a phone conversation with a detailer struggling in the field to complete a project.

As service providers, we are always striving for ways to make our jobs simpler and improve quality. However, sometimes things do not go as planed. Even with the best intentions, there are circumstances when things just don't go well, or accidents happen. We cannot control how or when these things might arise, but how we react is...

What a great time to be a detailer. So many awesome products, tools, accessories, to make the technicians job easier along with improving the outcome. However, it seem like in the last 5 years we have more and more new products. Along with all the new products, comes the product reviews on YouTube. It seems as though the detailing industry has a completely different industry inside itself. So many YouTube influencers pushing out content for the sake of making content, reviewing a product for likes or affiliate commission. It seems as though YouTube has helped the detailing industry while hurting...

Mattie & Killmer sit down for a birthday podcast celebrating Matties 41st birthday!

Back from a recent trip to the RingBrothers paint correcting and ceramic coating two new cars, one of them happed to be Mike Rings new SRT. With only two days to complete the job Davy P and Mattie worked long days to knock out both vehicles. The first one was a new Black Acura MDX with 4,000 miles, the second one was Mike Rings new SRT.

I am sure most detailers prefer to work on new cars when given the chance vs countless labor...

In this episode, Jason & Mattie sit down to talk about about some of the things that lead to becoming efficient as a detailer. In the modern detailing world it can be really challenging to consistently be efficient. Setting expectations, being confident and doing what is best for the client is not always easy to do. Since Ceramic Coatings have become more main stream combined with lager tickets sales, some professionals in the detail community have struggled to put out quality in a timely manner. We as professionals tend to over think and over do many things in the detailing...

The 2023 Detailing Season has begun and there is a lot going on. It is mid April and the cars and trucks are starting to stack up as the phone continues to ring. New customers continue to call to inquire about paint correction & ceramic coatings along with detailing work. Jason Killmer is busy making sanding blocks and is cranking out his Master Sets, he is also getting ready to head east to Spokane to work on a few show cars.

We have been looking forward to going to California to host the Gloss University Event at Sprengers Detailing...

Jason and Mattie are back from spring break! The 2023 Detailing season has begun and there are many exciting things going on. 

In this episode, we discuss Mattie's recent project helping the new car dealership solve a problem with a unhappy client. A new vehicle was sold last month and when the customer took deliver of the new Hyundai Genesis it has excessive rail dust all over the finish. Additionally, the vehicle came from the manufacture with a "matte" finish in the color white, with a gold flake that resembled the look of iron fallout and iron deposits. A...

YouTube university VS one on one training. Killmer and Mattie discuss the idea of training with a group or person vs YouTube university. Whether you choose to train with a group, or you choose to train with an individual, there is a time commitment that is required. If you are looking to fast-track or advance your skill set in auto detailing or paint correction, training with a person or a group can help develop your skill set and accelerate the learning curve. 

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Killmer is home from another long trip, this time he is retuning from the Grand National Roadster Show in sunny California. Killmer shares some stories of his experience at the show, reconnecting with some old friends and making new ones along the way. Killmer has rediscovered his passion for hot rods and had such a great time at the show. 

As the episode progresses, we talk about how having the right attitude can really shape your daily landscape. We wonder what it must be like to build these hot rods and talk about some of the countless h...

Jason and Mattie sit down with Markus, to discuss some of his past working for Meguiar's in Irvine California. Fast forward to present day, Markus has moved onto working with Harbor Freight Tools. 

Killmer talks about his love for Harbor Freight and the convenience of having so many locations. Jason has shopped and many of the locations across the country with his travels detailing hot rods and more. Markus shares some insight on developing some of the polishers you see today on the shelves at Harbor Freight Tools, along with some of the future goals of the c...

One of our friends called us the three amigos, so that is what we are naming this episode. David Patterson & Jason Killmer have known each other many years before connecting with Mattie. David shares a deep passion for auto detailing industry, and brings a very high skill level to this industry. Oberk has created some staple products in the the industry by trying to simply the process and remove the guess work. 

In this episode we discuss how Jason Killmer and David Patterson met. We also dive into some of Davids background of working with Lake Country M...

For our first guest of the year, we invited RJ from WD detailing. We look forward to having more guests on the podcast in 2023. WD Detailing has built up a great business in Ohio and has a very successful YouTube channel that puts out weekly content. In this episode we talk with Rj about his recent project with Killmer on the 57 Bel Air. We also discuss some of the challenges we all face as detailers. 

To find out more about RJ and WD Detailing check them out in the link below.   

As the new year gets underway, both Jason and Mattie are very busy. Jason was recently in Ohio with WD Detailing while Mattie was with Oberk Car Care in Michigan at Jesse's Classic & Customes to kick off the New Year. We have a lot of fun stuff planned for 2023 and in this episode, Jason & Matt catch up live on the podcast to recap the last few weeks, and set the tone for all the craziness coming this year.  

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Mattie and Jason talk about some to the challenges associated with auto detailing. This is a hard topic when it comes to pricing out your services. Around the globe you will find all kinds of different pricing structures for auto detailing.  What should you charge? How do you get charge more for your service? There is no easy or perfect answer to this question. It helps to know that we are not alone when it comes to pricing.  

As the year draws to a close, Mattie and Killmer sit down to talk about past, present and future goals. Killmer digs into his goals for working with certain painters from across the country. Mattie talks about the goals of the driven by details podcast as we close out 2022

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Mattie & Jason Talk about ceramic coatings. Mattie shares a story about how he was introduced into ceramic coatings, along with some of the things he has learned along the way. Coatings help drive bigger ticket sales, but not everyone wants to pay that kind of money additionally, not every vehicle should have a coating installed. 

Thanks for listening, Enjoy! 

Killmer is back home from his travels. There has been some new developments for the 2023 calendar regarding training with Gloss University. Mattie & Jason discuss whats happing live on this podcast as we plan ahead for 2023. 

Thank you all for listening. We appreciate your support!

Mattie & Jason talk about the tools used daily in the modern world of detailing. From rotary buffing, DA polishing and forced rotation correction, choosing the tool thats best for you takes some time. Using the tool to is full potential can really take some time to master. Having so many choices makes it a great time to be a detailer.  

Jason and Mattie sit down to discuss that moment in time right before Mattie started his full time detailing business. We also discuss how training is a big part of our past and how it will evolve in the future.  

A brief back story about how Jason and Matt met for the first time. Having only connected on Instagram a few weeks before, Matt and Jason finely got to meet in person at a detail training event.  

Matt and Jason discuss Matts backstory, and discuss some of the things that led up to where he is today with his detailing business.  

In episode one we discuss a bit of Jason Killmer's back story. We explore some of the things leading up to Jason getting into auto detailing and talk about how he became know as the "sandman"