Getting Smart Podcast

Getting Smart Podcast

By: Getting Smart

Language: en

Categories: Education, Business, Management

This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership. Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.

Episodes

How Is Bhutan Transforming Education with Place-Based Learning? | Wangchuk and Tashi Dendup
Jan 09, 2026

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen engages with Wangchuck Wangchuck and Tashi Dendup to explore Bhutan's innovative approach to learner-centered practices. Learn how Bhutan connects education with its community, culture, and environment to foster critical thinking, collaboration, and sustainability. Through a whole-school approach, Bhutan is not only enhancing student engagement but also aligning its education system with its Gross National Happiness philosophy. This conversation highlights impactful lessons on transforming education systems to prepare learners for the complexities of the 21st century.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction to Place-Based Education (03:42...

Duration: 00:41:15
How Can Technologies Help Learners Figure Out What's Next For Them? | Diane Tavenner and Marshawn Brown
Jan 07, 2026

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Diane Tavenner, founder and CEO of Futre, and Marshawn Brown, a student user of the platform. Together, they discuss how Futre empowers students to explore diverse career pathways with transparency and dignity. From personalized career exploration and work-based learning integration to long-term tools for student success, this conversation reimagines the mission of education. Learn how schools can support students in navigating post-secondary options and preparing for meaningful, purpose-driven futures.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction to Futre Platform (09:02) Career Discovery and...

Duration: 00:27:14
How Will AI Transform Education in 2026 and Beyond? | Ben Kornell
Dec 19, 2025

In this dual-episode podcast, Tom Vander Ark of Getting Smart and Ben Kornell of EdTech Insiders dive into the transformative year of 2025 in education and share bold predictions for 2026. They explore how AI-driven innovations, work-based learning, and personalized education models are reshaping teaching and learning. From the rise of AI-forward schools to the impact of generative AI on traditional classroom practices, Tom and Ben discuss key trends such as the shift to learner agency, creativity, and critical thinking. They also tackle pressing challenges, including the increasing automation of the workforce, the potential backlash against AI in K-12 educ...

Duration: 00:31:00
Can Team-Based Teaching Revolutionize Education? | Rebecca Hutchinson & Brent Maddin
Dec 17, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Nate McClennen is joined by Dr. Brent Maddin of the Next Education Workforce Initiative at ASU Mary Lou Fulton Teachers College and Dr. Rebecca Hutchinson, superintendent at Concord Community Schools in Michigan. Together, they explore the transformative potential of team-based teaching models that reimagine the traditional "one teacher, one classroom" approach. From improving teacher retention and fostering collaboration to enhancing student outcomes and creating personalized learning opportunities, this conversation dives into how innovative staffing models can reshape the future of education. Listen in to hear firsthand experiences from Concord's...

Duration: 00:44:43
What Happens When We Embrace Real World Learning? | Kenny Rodriguez
Dec 12, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Dr. Kenny Rodriguez, Superintendent of Grandview School District in Kansas City, shares how his district has embraced real-world learning and innovative pathways to drive student success. From his early work with Big Picture Learning in Tulsa to leading regional collaborations with neighboring districts, Dr. Rodriguez discusses the importance of breaking down barriers to provide shared opportunities for students. He highlights how Grandview integrates student passions into education through personalized learning pathways, partnerships, and hands-on experiences like Project Lead the Way. Tune in to hear how his leadership philosophy—focused on...

Duration: 00:31:09
How Is This Teen Transforming Lagos with Green Spaces? | Amara C. Nwuneli
Dec 10, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Mason Pashia sits down with Amara Nwuneli, the Africa 2025 Earth Prize regional winner, to discuss her inspiring work tackling urban climate challenges in Lagos, Nigeria. Amara shares how her project, The Green Sustainability Hub, integrates sustainable infrastructure into underserved communities by transforming waste into green spaces. From her experiences at COP 30 to her journey of securing grants and mentorship, Amara provides an inspiring look into youth-driven climate solutions, the importance of experiential learning, and the power of starting small to create meaningful change. Tune in to hear how...

Duration: 00:31:19
What is Power of Participation and How Can Civics Help Learners Thrive? | Fernande Raine
Dec 05, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen sits down with Fernande Raine, founder of the History CoLab, to explore the critical role of civics and humanities in shaping the future of education and empowering young people. They discuss the intersection of crises—disconnection, democracy challenges, and AI disruption—and how these challenges demand a reinvention of civic education. The conversation highlights the "18 by 18" framework, which outlines 18 key learning journeys for students to complete by age 18, and the importance of designing education to foster participation, connection, and purpose. Dive into this insightful discussion to learn how fost...

Duration: 00:36:31
Is It Time to Recognize Childcare as a Public Right? | Elliot Haspel
Dec 03, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we sit down with Elliot Haspel, a nationally recognized child and family policy expert and author of Crawling Behind: America's Childcare Crisis and How to Fix It and Raising a Nation: 10 Reasons Why Every American Has a Stake in Childcare for All. Together, we explore why universal childcare is not just a family issue but a societal one, rooted in brain science, economic sustainability, and the moral imperative to support children and caregivers. Elliot shares actionable insights on how policymakers, educators, and community leaders can create a mixed-delivery childcare sy...

Duration: 00:45:52
How Can Youth Participation Shape the Future? | UNICEF Foresight Fellows
Nov 26, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia dives into the critical importance of elevating youth voice and agency in shaping the future of education. Joined by Izumi Vasquez, a recent Harvard graduate and UNICEF Youth Foresight Fellow, alongside Caitlyn McCurn and Shai Naides of UNICEF, the conversation explores how young leaders are reimagining educational systems to be more equitable and inclusive. From addressing global education challenges to designing systems that prioritize student voice, this episode highlights the intersection of community investment, civic leadership, and innovative approaches to learning. Tune in to learn how empowering you...

Duration: 00:39:05
Catching Up: Early Reading, Cognitive Luxury, and Monarch Butterflies
Nov 21, 2025

In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia dive into a dynamic mix of topics shaping the future of learning and beyond. From exploring early reading development and its ties to brain pathways, to addressing the ethical concerns around AI and student surveillance, this episode balances critical education insights with thought-provoking discussions. The hosts also delve into the concept of "cognitive luxury," emphasizing the importance of creating space for deep, free, and slow thinking in today's fast-paced world. Wrapping up with the awe-inspiring migration of monarch butterflies and their remarkable precision, this episode...

Duration: 00:46:35
How Can We Build Equitable Mentorship Systems for Personalized Learning? | Polygence
Nov 19, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers sits down with Jen Chow, co-founder and COO of Polygence, Rahul Patel, founder of Hypothesis to Hardware, and Zohra Khawaja, founder of Hearts Against Homelessness, to explore how equitable mentorship and personalized learning systems can empower students to thrive. The conversation delves into the transformative power of mentorship when it becomes more than just a "nice-to-have," highlighting how mentorship systems that prioritize student agency, critical thinking, and curiosity can create meaningful, scalable, and equitable learning opportunities. From the role of expert mentors to the integration of AI in...

Duration: 00:45:11
How Can Educators Teach Students to Use AI Ethically and Responsibly? | Douglas Fisher
Nov 14, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Doug Fisher to discuss the new book, Teaching Students to Use AI Ethically and Responsibly. Together, they explore the critical need for AI literacy in schools and how educators can teach about, for, and with AI to prepare students for a computational future. Dr. Fisher emphasizes the importance of fostering curiosity, ethical decision-making, and data literacy while sharing practical examples of how schools can integrate AI into classrooms. This conversation is a must-listen for educators and leaders looking to embrace the opportunities and c...

Duration: 00:31:47
How Can We Transform Education to Focus on Real Learning? | Pam Moran, Liz Calvert, and Ira Socol
Nov 12, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Rebecca Midles sits down with Pam Moran, Ira David Socol, and Liz Calvert to explore how educational leaders are transforming traditional teaching and assessment into meaningful, student-centered learning experiences. Drawing from their new book, Real Learning, Real Accomplishment, the conversation dives into the power of mastery learning, systemic change, and fostering student and teacher agency. With insights from innovative schools across Kentucky, Virginia, Illinois, and Nevada, this episode highlights the strategies and belief shifts necessary to create lasting, impactful educational transformation. Tune in to learn how educators and leaders c...

Duration: 00:36:20
How Can Anyone Become an Innovator in a Rapidly Changing World? | Tessa Forshaw & Rich Braden
Nov 07, 2025

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Tessa Forshaw and Rich Braden, authors of Innovation-ish: How Anyone Can Create Breakthrough Solutions to Real Problems in the Real World. They explore how innovation mindsets, creative problem-solving, and AI as a co-intelligence tool can empower anyone to tackle complex challenges. Drawing from their experiences at Stanford's d.school and Harvard, Tessa and Rich break down the frameworks, mindset shifts, and practical moves that make innovation accessible to everyone. Whether you're a leader, educator, or simply curious about the future of work and le...

Duration: 00:35:33
How Can Foundations Transform High Schools for Equity and Future-Ready Learning? | Jenny Curtin
Nov 05, 2025

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Jenny Curtin, Director of Education at the Barr Foundation, shares her insights on reimagining high schools to create equitable, future-ready opportunities for all students. Jenny discusses her work leading transformative education initiatives across New England, including designing new high school models, investing in educators, and building public will for systemic change. She emphasizes the importance of listening to students, addressing systemic inequities, and ensuring that every learner has access to meaningful experiences that prepare them for life beyond high school. From the challenges of shifting entrenched mindsets to the o...

Duration: 00:29:53
How is Ohio University Preparing Students for a Tech Driven World? | Paul Benedict
Oct 31, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Paul Benedict, associate professor and executive director of the Center for Entrepreneurship at Ohio University, about their groundbreaking AI initiative. In just two years, the College of Business transformed how students think about AI, entrepreneurship, and real-world problem-solving. From rapid prototyping workshops to AI-powered business solutions, Paul shares how Ohio University is preparing students to be AI-capable and thrive in a tech-driven world. Don't miss this inspiring conversation about future-ready learning and innovative uses of AI in education.

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Duration: 00:29:48
Why is Adolescence a Powerful Time for Growth, Agency, and Mattering? | Ronald Dahl
Oct 29, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Ronald Dahl, a distinguished pediatrician and developmental scientist from UC Berkeley, to explore the transformative potential of adolescence. Together, they discuss why adolescence is not just a period of vulnerability but also a dynamic window of opportunity for learning, growth, and authentic contribution. Dr. Dahl highlights the importance of fostering agency, mattering, and experiential learning environments that allow young people to feel valued and empowered. From the neuroscience of brain plasticity to the actionable steps educators and leaders can take to create sup...

Duration: 00:40:04
How Can Policy Transform Education for the Future? | Jon Alfuth & Julianna Charles Brown
Oct 24, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Rebecca Midles sits down with Jon Alfuth and Julianna Charles Brown from KnowledgeWorks to explore the "how" behind transforming education systems. The conversation dives deep into the importance of state policy frameworks, personalized learning, and competency-based education to create future-ready systems. They discuss the role of a shared vision, like a Portrait of a Graduate, in driving systemic change and aligning policy with practice. With examples from states like Montana and Washington, this episode highlights how flexible learning pathways and transferable skills can prepare students for an uncertain future...

Duration: 00:38:23
How Can Bold Partnerships and Learner-Centered Design Transform Education? | Jeanine Collins
Oct 22, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Jeanine Collins, co-founder and Chief Impact Officer of the Center for the Future of Learning joins to share how Nevada is transforming its education system through bold partnerships, learner-centered design, and the arts. This episode dives into her journey from classroom teaching to leading statewide initiatives that redefine success for students through the Portrait of a Learner. Jeanine discusses the power of arts in education, how intermediary organizations can bridge policy and practice, and the importance of building collective action to drive systemic change. Tune in to explore how...

Duration: 00:25:37
Why Is Deeper Learning Essential in an Age of Distraction? | Tony Wagner and Ulrik Christensen
Oct 17, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Tony Wagner and Dr. Ulrik Christensen to dive into their new book, Mastery: Why Deeper Learning is Essential in the Age of Distraction. Together, they unpack the concept of mastery learning, why it matters in today's rapidly changing world, and how it connects to deeper learning and student agency. The conversation highlights innovative approaches to education, real-world examples from schools like Red Bridge and Olin College, and the critical need to foster intrinsic motivation and lifelong learning skills. Whether you're an educator, po...

Duration: 00:33:52
What can Unbundled Learning and AI Teach us about Personalizing Education? | Matt Bowman
Oct 15, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen sits down with Matt Bowman, co-founder of Open Ed, to explore how unbundled learning and personalized education are transforming the future of learning. They discuss Open Ed's innovative approach to blending public and private education systems, the role of competency-based learning, and how families can become education designers for their children. The conversation also dives into the impact of AI on education and how it's driving demand for flexible, learner-centered ecosystems. Whether you're a parent, educator, or policymaker, this episode offers actionable insights into creating personalized pathways for...

Duration: 00:37:35
How Can a Skills-First Mindset Transform the Future of Work and Education? | Isaac Agbeshie-Noye
Oct 08, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Dr. Isaac Agbeshie-Noye, Program Director for Widening Pathways at the SHRM Foundation. They discuss the concept of a skills-first future and how it can unlock potential and economic mobility through inclusive hiring practices. The conversation highlights the importance of aligning skills with workforce needs, the role of AI in shaping employment, and the value of collaboration between employers, schools, and training providers. Tune in to learn about the strategies and tools driving a more equitable and skills-focused workforce.

Outline

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Duration: 00:32:40
Catching Up: Ambient AI, Alpha School, and The Educator of the Future
Oct 03, 2025

In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia dive into the latest innovations shaping the future of learning. From Alpha School's groundbreaking two-hour AI-driven learning model to the rise of ambient AI that integrates seamlessly into our everyday lives, this conversation explores the intersection of technology, education, and human connection. They also reflect on the importance of relational intelligence in schools, the role of real-world learning during the remaining six hours of a student's day, and the growing significance of personalized and competency-based education. Tune in for thought-provoking insights and actionable ideas...

Duration: 00:49:44
How Can We Transform Education Through Competency-Based Learning and Collaboration? | FullScale
Oct 01, 2025

In this podcast episode, leaders Virgel Hammonds and Beth Rabbitt discuss how FullScale is accelerating competency-based and personalized learning by aligning practice, policy, people, and progress. By adopting a Co-CEO leadership model, they emphasize the power of collaboration, distributed leadership, and bold accountability to drive systemic change. This episode dives into the importance of coherence across education systems and the role of Full Scale in creating tools, evidence, and partnerships to empower learners and educators. Tune in to explore how this unification aims to reimagine education at scale!

Outline

(00:00) Introduction and Personal Interests (04:32) The Vision Behind the...

Duration: 00:37:26
How Can Domestic Exchange Programs Bridge Divides and Foster Empathy? | David McCullough III
Sep 26, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia sits down with David McCullough III, co-founder of the American Exchange Project, to explore how domestic student exchanges can foster empathy, bridge cultural divides, and build lifelong curiosity. Learn how this innovative program connects high school students across the U.S., encouraging them to step out of their comfort zones, embrace new perspectives, and contribute to their communities. Tune in to hear about the transformative power of travel, the origins of the program, and its vision for creating a more united and empathetic future

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Duration: 00:37:29
How Can Cross-State Collaboration and Real-World Learning Transform Education? | Bill Nicely
Sep 24, 2025

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Rebecca Midles sits down with Dr. Bill Nicely, Educator in Residence at the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation, to explore how cross-state, cross-sector collaboration in Kansas City is transforming education. They discuss the Real World Learning Initiative, the importance of market value assets for students, and how partnerships between urban, suburban, and rural districts are creating equitable opportunities. Tune in to learn how this innovative approach is preparing students for the future of work and fostering systemic change in education.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction to the Podca...

Duration: 00:30:14
How Can AI Reshape and Reshuffle The Creation of Value? | Sangeet Paul Choudary
Sep 17, 2025

Join us on this week's Getting Smart Podcast as we sit down with Sangeet Paul Choudary, author of Reshuffle: Who Wins When AI Attacks the Knowledge Economy. Together with Tom Vander Ark, Sangeet explores the profound reshuffling of markets, education, and talent development in the age of AI. Discover how the value creation chain—curiosity, curation, and judgment—is shifting and why reimagining systems around AI as an engine, rather than a tool, is the key to thriving in the future. Tune in to unlock insights into coordination, innovation, and the possibilities of AI-driven ecosystems. Listen now!

Duration: 00:31:32

How Can AI and Media Literacy Revolutionize Personalized Learning? | Hayley Spira-Bauer
Sep 10, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Hayley Spira-Bauer explore the transformative potential of AI, media literacy, and personalized learning in reshaping education. The lively conversation discusses how generative AI can reduce teacher workloads, foster high-agency classrooms, and create opportunities for meaningful human connections. The conversation also dives into the importance of media literacy as a core skill for navigating today's digital landscape, empowering students to critically evaluate information and thrive in a rapidly evolving world. Tune in to discover actionable insights on building innovative, student-centered learning ecosystems and preparing learners for the...

Duration: 00:45:55
Catching Up! | School Start Dates, Teacher Shortages, and Identity in Education
Sep 05, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore key topics shaping education today, from the varying start dates of schools across the U.S. to the global progress on Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). They dive into data on teacher shortages, discussing challenges with retention and exploring innovative solutions like rethinking educator models. The conversation also touches on the neuroscience of adolescent identity formation, emphasizing the importance of creating opportunities for healthy risk-taking and personal growth in schools. Tune in to hear insights on how schools can address current challenges while fostering connection, curiosity...

Duration: 00:45:34
How is Michigan Leading State-Wide Transformation and Innovation? | Dr. Dave Richards
Sep 03, 2025

Join us on the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast as Rebecca Midles sits down with Dr. Dave Richards, Executive Director of the Future Learning Council. Together, they explore how Michigan's coalition of school districts and ISDs is driving statewide transformation through personalized learning and competency-based education. Discover how member-driven networks are fostering collaboration, scaling innovation, and creating flexible, learner-centered systems. From micro-schools to professional development tools, this episode dives deep into the future of education. Don't miss this inspiring conversation about empowering communities and reimagining learning for all students!

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Duration: 00:29:25
How Are Fab Labs Transforming Education and Career Pathways? | Michael Stone & Kristen Burrus
Aug 27, 2025

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Kristen Burrus and Michael Stone from Chattanooga to discuss how fab labs and innovative learning ecosystems are transforming STEM education. They explore how STEM School Chattanooga and the Volkswagen eLab Network are integrating project-based learning, credentialing, and essential skill-building to create meaningful pathways for students. Learn how these efforts are bridging the gap between education and workforce readiness, offering students functional solutions to real-world challenges.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction and Podcast Overview (03:16) Memorable Learning Experiences (07:19) Chattanooga's STEM School Journey (19:17...

Duration: 00:38:59
How Do Words, Place, and Creativity Shape Who We Become? | Mason Pashia
Aug 21, 2025

Explore the fascinating intersection of poetry, art, and identity on this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast featuring Mason Pashia. Mason discusses his debut book, Kestrel and Other Songs, and dives deep into the creative process, the power of words, and the ways poetry invites us to see the world differently. From his inspirations like Robert Macfarlane to the influence of place and personal experiences, Mason shares insights that connect creativity with education, identity, and community. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that celebrates storytelling, imagination, and the transformative role of art in shaping how we view a...

Duration: 00:34:04
How is AI Transforming the Way We Teach Business Education? | Casey Evans
Aug 20, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Casey Evans, Associate Dean for Undergraduate Programs at American University's Kogod School of Business, to explore how AI is revolutionizing specifically business education. From integrating AI literacy across a fully redesigned curriculum to emphasizing professionalism and communication skills tailored for Gen Z, Casey shares how her team is preparing students for the future of work. Discover innovative approaches like interdisciplinary first-year courses, AI-infused learning paths, and the launch of new programs like the AI and Business Analytics major. Tune in to learn how the...

Duration: 00:27:04
How might we build pathways for economic mobility? | Kerry McKittrick
Aug 13, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark dives into the intersection of education and workforce innovation with Kerry McKittrick, Co-Director of Harvard's Project on Workforce. Together, they explore the evolving job market in the AI era, discussing challenges like the "AI job apocalypse" and the importance of creating agile pathways to economic mobility. Kerry highlights the critical role of work-based learning, industry partnerships, and personalized career navigation to prepare learners for a complex and dynamic workforce. Tune in to hear about the future of work, education's response, and how regional and adaptive pathways ca...

Duration: 00:29:24
Catching Up! | Models for Scaling Innovation and What AI Knows About Human Flourishing
Aug 08, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore the intersection of education innovation, policy updates, and emerging technologies. From the role of AI in fostering human flourishing to the potential of CTE centers and ISDs as innovation hubs, they dive into transformative ideas reshaping education. The discussion also delves into ethical considerations for AI, federal funding impacts on schools, and the power of decentralized networks to accelerate change. Tune in for insights on how education marketplaces and collaborative ecosystems can create future-ready learning environments.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction...

Duration: 00:41:20
How Can Place-Based Career Pathways Build Thriving Ecosystems? | Jonah Schenker
Aug 06, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Shawnee Caruthers explores the transformative power of Career Pathways Academy at iPark 87 with a dynamic panel of guests: Dr. Jonah Schenker (Ulster BOCES), John Boolukos (Archtop Fiber), and students Cameren Thibault-Edmonds and Natalie Winrow. Together, they discuss how place-based education, industry collaboration, and learner-centered design can open doors to opportunity, purpose, and belonging. From redefining Career and Technical Education (CTE) to fostering student confidence and self-direction, this episode highlights how intentional ecosystem building can create lasting community impact and prepare students to design the future.

 

Duration: 00:41:53
How is AI reshaping HR and Learning and Development? | Josh Bersin on Galileo
Aug 01, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark dives into the AI revolution in corporate learning with special guest Josh Bersin. Together, they explore the transformative potential of AI-powered tools like the Galileo HR Agent, which are reshaping talent development, HR systems, and learning and development (L&D). Discover how dynamic content, AI tutors, and virtual agents are creating "super workers" and revolutionizing workplace learning. Tune in to learn how these innovations are not just about efficiency but also about empowering humans to thrive in the workforce of the future.

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Duration: 00:27:53
What Does A Radically Collaborative Computer Science Education Initiative Look Like?
Jul 30, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we dive into California's groundbreaking efforts to expand equitable access to computer science education. Joined by Dr. Caryn Lewis, Rod Garcia, and Dr. Sharisa Chan, we explore how initiatives like the Cal MSCS Professional Learning Partnership are fostering equity, building interdisciplinary approaches, and promoting AI literacy for students and educators alike. From creating immersive communities of practice to emphasizing the importance of family engagement, this conversation reveals how California is setting the stage for a future-ready generation. Whether you're an educator, policymaker, or parent, this episode is packed with...

Duration: 00:27:30
What Does A Truly Responsive School Look Like? | Kara Bobroff
Jul 25, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia and Jason Cummins are thrilled to have Kara Bobroff join them to share her journey in transforming education for Indigenous communities. As the founder of One Generation and the driving force behind the Native American Community Academy (NACA), Kara passionately discusses how schools can truly reflect and serve their communities. Kara discusses the creation of NACA, a groundbreaking school built on the values of cultural identity, wellness, and academic achievement. Discover how this model has inspired a network of schools across the country, empowering Indigenous education and fostering a...

Duration: 00:38:26
How Could Regenerative Classrooms Change The Way We View Education? | Benjamin Freud
Jul 23, 2025

Join us on the Getting Smart Podcast as host Mason Pashia dives into regenerative design in education with Benjamin Freud, Head of Upper School at Green School Bali and co-founder of Coconut Thinking. Together, they discuss how schools can move beyond sustainability to embrace regenerative practices that create conditions conducive to life—not just for students but for all living beings. Explore the difference between sustainable and regenerative design, how to foster emergence in learning, and why the future of education requires a life-centered approach. Tune in to rethink systems and embrace the messy, transformative potential of educa...

Duration: 00:45:30
Catching Up! | Junior Republics, Global Flourishing, and Education Conductors?
Jul 18, 2025

In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia dive into a rich tapestry of educational innovation and thought-provoking topics. They explore Indiana's groundbreaking charter micro schools initiative, designed to re-engage students through public micro schools, and the fascinating history of Junior Republics—youth-led communities that once offered immersive real-world learning experiences. The duo also examines the importance of project management skills starting in kindergarten, the role of empathy in leadership, and the potential for education to combat tribalism while fostering the common good. Additionally, they unpack insights from the Global Flourishing Study, discussing how ed...

Duration: 00:52:59
How Does Professions-Based Learning Prepare Young People for Pathways of the Future? | Corey Mohn & Sophia Porter
Jul 16, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we explore the transformative power of professions-based learning through the lens of the CAPS network. Join Tom Vander Ark as he gets into how CAPS integrates real-world learning experiences with career-connected pathways, creating dynamic opportunities for students across the nation. With over 100 sites and participation from 200 school districts, the CAPS model emphasizes self-discovery and entrepreneurial mindsets, equipping learners with durable, transferable skills. Featuring insights from Corey Mohn, CAPS Executive Director, and Sophia Porter, a distinguished CAPS alumna, we discuss the essential role of AI in education and envision the future of...

Duration: 00:33:29
How Can We Create Dynamic, High-Performing, Well-Regarded School Systems? | Don Haddad
Jul 09, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Don Haddad, retiring superintendent of St. Vrain Valley Schools, to explore the impactful journey of transforming a school district into a responsive, high-performing system. Dr. Haddad shares insights on building a vision that aligns education with the fast-changing global environment, fostering community trust, and developing diverse pathways that significantly raised graduation rates. His approach to leadership and innovation, focused on equity and opportunity, has not only benefited the district but also set a benchmark in educational leadership. Tune in to discover how a m...

Duration: 00:37:47
How Can AI Technology Transform Classroom Instruction? | Habib Bangura
Jul 02, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen dives into the cutting-edge world of AI in education with Habib Bangura from Urban Assembly. Discover how Project Cafe is revolutionizing classroom instruction by providing real-time, developmental feedback to teachers. By utilizing AI-driven video analysis, this innovative tool enhances teaching efficiency and effectiveness, paving the way for improved student outcomes. Join the conversation to explore how technology is transforming traditional educational models and what it means for the future of learning.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction to the Podcast (06:19) Urban Assembly's Mission and...

Duration: 00:35:12
What Does Real-World Learning Look Like in Rural Tennessee? | Elizabethton High School
Jun 27, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, join Tom Vander Ark as he explores the transformative power of community-engaged learning with guests from Elizabethton High School in rural Tennessee. Discover how educators like Dustin Hensley are redefining education by integrating real-world challenges into the classroom, allowing students to develop crucial skills and a sense of purpose. Hear inspiring stories from alumni Veronica Watson and Sadie Whitehead, who share how these experiences have shaped their personal and professional lives. This conversation highlights the importance of student-centered education and the potential for community engagement to create meaningful learning opportunities. Tune...

Duration: 00:33:22
What can we learn from pathways implementation around the world? | Paul Herdman
Jun 25, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Paul Herdman, CEO of the Rodell Foundation of Delaware, to discuss the transformative power of pathways in education. They delve into how initiatives like work-based learning and seamless transitions from high school to career can enhance student success and readiness for the future. This conversation highlights the importance of collaboration between educational institutions and employers to build effective and equitable pathways. Tune in to explore the new possibilities for students and the education system.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction...

Duration: 00:32:19
What is the Lasting Impact of High Quality Project-Based Learning? | Ryan Sprott, Annah Sanchez, Daniela Hernandez, and Bianca Garza
Jun 20, 2025

In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we dive into the transformative power of project-based learning (PBL) through the lens of the Border Lands project. Hosted by Shawnee Caruthers, this episode features insightful conversations with Ryan Sprott, an educator and PBL advocate, alongside former students Annah Sanchez, Daniela Hernandez, and Bianca Garza. Together, they explore how immersive learning experiences at the US-Mexico border shaped their understanding of complex social issues and fostered personal growth. The guests reflect on the profound impact of engaging directly with real-world challenges, emphasizing the importance of empathy, active listening, and...

Duration: 00:51:00
How do you drive lasting systems change? | The Learning Innovation Framework
Jun 18, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Rebecca Midles discuss the Getting Smart Learning Innovation Framework, designed to catalyze systems change in education. They explore how personalized, competency-based learning models integrated with AI can meet the diverse needs of students and overcome the systemic challenges currently facing education. The conversation highlights the framework's focus on community-driven visions, adaptive learning models, and innovative signaling methods to ensure meaningful credentialing and assessment. Join us as we uncover the potential of this framework to lead educational systems toward new horizons, addressing pressing issues such as equity and...

Duration: 00:35:13
How Can Learning Ecosystems Change Educational Opportunities in Michigan? | Monique Uzelac
Jun 13, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Monique Uzelac, the Executive Director of the Washtenaw Educational Options Consortium in Michigan explore the innovative approach to educational choice within the consortium, discussing how it offers diverse programs like competency-based learning and early college opportunities. Monique shares insights into the consortium's collaborative efforts with multiple districts to enhance student outcomes and meet varied educational needs. The discussion also delves into the challenges and successes of maintaining a nimble yet established educational model, the significance of belonging and relationships amidst technological advancements, and future visions for expanding career...

Duration: 00:33:58
How Can Schools Be Transformed By Joy? | George Philhower
Jun 11, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers has a vibrant conversation with Superintendent Dr. George Philhower to explore how joy, alongside connection, growth, and success, forms the core of their educational commitments. Learn about their innovative initiatives, like the Joy Integration Specialist role and Joy Jam conference, which transform learning experiences by fostering genuine curiosity and purpose. Join us to see how these efforts are not just enhancing academic engagement but also preparing students for real-world challenges with confidence and credentials. Whether you're an educator, parent, or community leader, this episode offers valuable insights into creating...

Duration: 00:34:48
Catching Up! | An AI Research and Leadership Framework, Humanities 2.0, and Incentivizes that Fuel Communities of Learning
Jun 06, 2025

In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore the evolving landscape of education with a focus on AI leadership, applied humanities, and innovative learning spaces. They dive into key topics such as the role of AI in transforming educational practices, the shift towards applied humanities in higher education, and the potential of community spaces in schools to enhance learning experiences. With insights from recent developments and thoughtful discussions, this episode offers valuable perspectives for educators, administrators, and policymakers looking to navigate the future of education. Tune in to discover how these emerging trends are shaping...

Duration: 00:47:18
How Can we Unlock The True Potential Of School Assessments? | BB Ntsakey & Kelly Niccolls
Jun 04, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Victoria Andrews sits down with educational leaders BB Ntsakey and Kelly Niccolls to explore the transformative power of liberatory assessment. Discover how these innovative approaches move beyond traditional metrics to create personalized, student-centered learning experiences that emphasize growth and empowerment. By reimagining assessment as a tool for learning and liberation, educators can foster environments where students' unique strengths and potential are recognized and nurtured. Tune in to learn how you can implement these practices in your own educational context and the positive impact they can have on student engagement and...

Duration: 00:31:26
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Sustainability
May 28, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews delve into the critical aspects of sustainability within the microschool movement. They are joined by insightful leaders like Amar Kumar and Andrew Lee, who share their expertise on maintaining financial health, ensuring leadership succession, and prioritizing equity in education. Through candid discussions, the episode highlights how microschools, with their innovative and decentralized models, navigate challenges like budgeting, tuition setting, and creating inclusive environments. It's a conversation not only about numbers but about sustaining passion and impact in education. Tune in to explore how these small-scale...

Duration: 00:22:00
What is Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines? | Jamie Merisotis
May 21, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Jamie Merisotis, CEO of the Lumina Foundation, about the evolving landscape of work and education in the age of artificial intelligence. As industries rapidly adopt AI technologies, Jamie shares insights on how human work is transforming and the crucial role of credentialing in ensuring economic prosperity. The conversation highlights the importance of redefining educational goals to include not only degrees but also valuable credentials that align with the demands of the modern workforce. Tune in to explore how AI is reshaping professions...

Duration: 00:30:26
Is Deeper Learning the Answer Uncertainty in the Age of AI? | Michael Fullan
May 14, 2025

In this enlightening episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark and Dr. Kaleb Rashad engage in a thought-provoking dialogue with Dr. Michael Fullan, an internationally acclaimed advocate for deeper learning. Together, they explore whether deeper learning is the key to addressing the challenges and opportunities presented by the new age of AI. Dr. Fullan introduces the concept of "systemness," emphasizing the need for systemic change over isolated educational initiatives. The conversation covers the transformative progress in Anaheim, driven by the integration of systemness and the five Cs of compassionate learning. Tune in to discover how AI can...

Duration: 00:33:44
Catching Up! | Curation, Vibe Coding and New Priorities for Education
May 09, 2025

In this episode of "Catching Up!", Mason and Nate dive into a vibrant discussion on the evolving landscape of education, focusing on how vibe coding, curiosity, and judgment are poised to redefine learning priorities. They explore the shifting dynamics of computer science education in the age of AI and highlight the importance of fostering experience-based learning opportunities across diverse educational geographies. From the intriguing concept of "Italian brain rot" to the challenges of expanding CTE programs in rural areas, this episode covers an array of thought-provoking topics. The hosts also discuss the role of curation in both...

Duration: 00:52:38
What Does Rethinking Assessment Look Like? | One Stone
May 07, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we delve into the transformative assessment practices of One Stone, a unique high school that prioritizes student agency and real-world skills. Host Victoria Andrews engages in an enlightening conversation with Celeste Bolin, Executive Director of One Stone, and students Sophie Gunther and Raya Naymik. They discuss the school's innovative approach to assessments, which emphasizes resilience, leadership, and the ability to "fail forward." By integrating students' diverse interests and lived experiences into the learning process, One Stone fosters a supportive environment where effort and growth are valued over traditional grading...

Duration: 00:32:43
Getting Smart and Carlos Moreno: Live from SXSW
May 02, 2025

Join Shawnee Caruthers and Carlos Moreno in an enlightening conversation on the Getting Smart Podcast as they delve into the transformative power of leading with love, care, and vulnerability in education. This episode, recorded live at South by Southwest, explores the theme of Humanizing Pathways Leadership. Carlos Moreno, co-director of Big Picture Learning, shares his insights and experiences in empowering students and communities. With heartfelt stories and thought-provoking discussions on emotional intelligence and leadership, this episode is a must-listen for educators, leaders, and anyone passionate about creating impactful educational pathways. Discover how embracing emotional intelligence and community-focused leadership can red...

Duration: 00:58:55
What are The Key Competencies of a Modern Day Leader? | Laura Hilger, Carmen Coleman and Estrada
Apr 30, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Rebecca Midles delves into the essential competencies of modern-day leadership with Laura Hilger, Senior Director of Teaching and Learning at KnowledgeWorks. Joined by Carmen Coleman and Estrada, the conversation explores the development and impact of the Lead for Learners Network and the Portrait of a Leader. These initiatives aim to guide educational leaders towards sustainable change through personalized, competency-based learning. Discover how collaborative processes and strategic leadership development can drive transformation in educational systems, ensuring leaders are equipped to foster equitable, learner-centered environments. Tune in to learn about upcoming opportunities...

Duration: 00:24:32
Catching Up! | Shifting Enrollment, Dead Malls, and Community Hubs
Apr 25, 2025

In this episode of "Catching Up!", hosts Mason and Nate dive into a lively discussion on the future of education, exploring how learning spaces, AI readiness, and global innovations are reshaping the landscape. From the creative redevelopment of community hubs in former malls to the pressing need for media literacy amidst a wave of information overload, this conversation covers a range of critical topics. They touch on the potential impacts of a new executive order on AI in education and the challenges facing early education systems. With insights from recent trips and conferences, including a poetic cultural...

Duration: 00:49:20
Who needs college anymore? | Kathleen DeLaski
Apr 23, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Kathleen deLaski, author of "Who Needs College Anymore?" to explore the ever-evolving landscape of higher education. DeLaski challenges traditional views on college education, delving into how the rise of alternative pathways like apprenticeships and dual enrollment are reshaping post-secondary education. They discuss the implications of the Great Recession, the impact of AI, and the role of experience as the new "silver bullet" in career advancement. Tune in to discover why the four-year degree might not be the only or best option for today's learners and...

Duration: 00:34:07
How Should we Confront Complexity in Uncertain Times?
Apr 18, 2025

On the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia engages with Will Richardson, co-founder of The Big Questions Institute, to explore the evolving role of education in the face of global complexity and potential collapse. Richardson shares insights from his new manifesto, emphasizing the importance of repairing human and ecological relationships as a core educational mission. Together, they delve into the necessity of preparing students emotionally, physically, and spiritually to navigate an increasingly chaotic world. By focusing on adaptive change, curiosity, and the beauty of interconnectedness, this conversation challenges traditional schooling narratives and invites educators to rethink...

Duration: 00:36:50
How Important is Research and Development for Education? | Sara Schapiro
Apr 16, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Sara Schapiro, the director of the Alliance for Learning Innovation. Together, they explore the critical need for enhanced research and development (R&D) within the education sector—an area historically underfunded compared to other industries like healthcare. The discussion delves into the unique challenges and opportunities of education R&D, highlighting the importance of both federal and state-level support in developing interoperable data systems that drive innovation. Sara emphasizes the essential role of venture capital and design research in shaping the future of...

Duration: 00:31:38
Catching Up! | Exploring Learning Spaces, AI Readiness, and Global Education Innovations
Apr 11, 2025

In this episode of "Catching Up!", join Mason Pashia and Nate McClennen as they explore the intersection of learning spaces, AI readiness, and global education innovations. Discover how AI-assisted teams outperform conventional groups and what New Zealand's competency-based education system can teach us about learner records. Delve into the role of technology adoption inspired by the Amish and how this shapes community values. Whether you're an educator, policymaker, or lifelong learner, this episode offers insights into the evolving landscape of education and the future of learning ecosystems.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction and Overview (03:30) Travel Insights and...

Duration: 00:44:38
How Can Relational Intelligence Transform Education in Our Tech Based World? | Isabelle Hau
Apr 09, 2025

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Jordan Luster explores the transformative potential of relational intelligence in education with Isabelle Hau, Executive Director of the Stanford Accelerator for Learning and author of "Love to Learn." Together, they explore the concept of relational intelligence (RQ) and its importance in shaping relationship-centered learning environments. Isabelle shares insights on how fostering strong emotional connections can enhance learning experiences, emphasizing that love and relationships are foundational to education. The conversation further examines how microschools and community-centered models can be effective solutions to the relational crisis in education, offering personalized and meaningful learning...

Duration: 00:33:27
What If the Era of AI is Really the Era of Youth Entrepreneurship? | Don Wettrick
Apr 02, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark chats with Don Wettrick, CEO of the StartEdUp Foundation, to explore the future of entrepreneurship education. Don Wettrick talks about how the foundation is transforming high school students into proactive problem-solvers and innovators through initiatives like the Innovate Within pitch competition. This program empowers young minds by encouraging them to tackle real-world problems, leveraging tools like AI to enhance opportunity recognition, design thinking, and impactful execution. Wettrick gets into the importance of embedding entrepreneurship as a universal skill set that can be applied across various careers, enabling students to...

Duration: 00:30:04
From Getting Smart: Catching Up! Abundance, Learning Experiences, and What's in Your Learner Wallet?
Mar 28, 2025

In this episode of "Catching Up," Mason Pashia and Nate McClennen dive into the endless potential of AI across various sectors, with a focus on education and music. They explore the implications of AI-generated music, the concept of unbundling education to expand learning ecosystems, and the emerging importance of digital credentials and learner records. The discussion also highlights a new framework for school redesign, emphasizing real-world experiences and adaptability in a changing labor market. They further delve into the concept of abundance, inspired by recent literature, and its application to educational innovation. The episode concludes with a reflection on...

Duration: 00:45:32
What does a Community-Connected Career Readiness Program Look Like? | A Case Study with YouScience
Mar 26, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia and his guests talk about how YouScience is transforming career navigation for students and educators. Joined by an achieved panel of guests, including Peter Van Mondfrans from YouScience, Kaitlyn Tyler from the Greater Springfield Partnership, Christina Walters of Knight Dispatch, and Jamison Truebenbach from the Global Impact STEM Academy, the discussion explores the dynamic intersection of education, workforce development, and technology. They go in-depth on YouScience's unique approach to identifying student aptitudes and matching them with career opportunities, the critical role of local partnerships in retaining talent...

Duration: 00:41:44
How might we transform the college application journey? | Tiffany Green on Uprooted Academy
Mar 19, 2025

In the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Victoria Andrews engages in an enlightening conversation with Tiffany Green, the visionary founder of Uprooted Academy. This innovative platform is designed to transform the college application journey for young students by incorporating holistic elements such as financial literacy, wellness, and community engagement. Tiffany shares her personal experiences and insights, revealing how Uprooted Academy is not just about getting students to college but ensuring they thrive through comprehensive support that tackles often-overlooked areas like mental health and family involvement. By employing technology and AI, Uprooted Academy personalizes the...

Duration: 00:34:07
What does comprehensive computer science education look like? | Sonal Patel and Tonya Coats
Mar 12, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we're thrilled to host Dr. Sonal Patel and Tonya Coats from the California Mathematics, Science, and Computer Science Professional Learning Partnership, commonly known as Cal MSCS. This duo is leading the charge in revolutionizing computer science education across California by focusing on equity and access. They share insights into how Cal MSCS is creating a comprehensive, multi-agency system designed to provide sustainable professional learning infrastructure for educators, ensuring that students across diverse backgrounds gain critical skills in collaboration, design thinking, and problem-solving.

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Duration: 00:33:04
The Students Know Best, Can Education Learn from Community? | Aylon Samouha
Mar 05, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Rebecca Midles sits down with Aylon Samouha, the CEO of Transcend and a visionary in education reform. They delve into the concept of The Third Way, an approach that blends community insights with proven educational practices to create lasting change in schools. Aylon shares his insights from years of experience in the field, discussing the limitations of traditional top-down reforms and the challenges faced by grassroots efforts. Together, they explore the importance of truly listening to students and communities to design learning environments that meet today's needs. The conversation is...

Duration: 00:28:28
How bad is the "Disengagement Crisis"? | Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop
Feb 26, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Nate McClennen explores the topic of teen engagement with guests Jenny Anderson and Rebecca Winthrop, authors of "The Disengaged Teen." They delve into the four modes of learning—passenger, achiever, resistor, and explorer—offering insights on how students move between these modes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of agency and engagement in education, providing practical strategies for parents and educators to help students thrive. By focusing on nurturing student curiosity and agency, the discussion highlights how both parents and teachers can make a difference in fostering a love for learning. This...

Duration: 00:41:36
What if all students had a menu of pathways options in high school? | Dr. Lazaro Lopez and Students from District 214
Feb 19, 2025

Welcome to the Getting Smart Podcast, in today's episode, we dive into the innovative initiatives of District 214, a leader in creating personalized, real-world learning experiences for students. Supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, District 214 is part of the Illinois Accelerate Ed cohort, focusing on bridging K-12 education with postsecondary opportunities and careers. Join us as we speak with Dr. Lazaro Lopez, Associate Superintendent, and inspiring students Ayana and Georgie, who share their unique paths in healthcare and engineering. Discover how these learners are navigating their futures with confidence and purpose in an ever-evolving world.

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Duration: 00:32:31
Are you "hiring" your dream job? | Michael Horn
Feb 12, 2025

In this episode, Mason Pashia is joined by Michael Horn to discuss his new book, "Job Moves: Nine Steps for Making Progress in Your Career." They explore the jobs-to-be-done theory and how it applies to career choices, highlighting the iterative process of career pathways. Michael shares insights on hiring your job, storytelling in career development, and the role of experiences in credentialing.

Outline

(00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast (02:09) Michael Horn's Career Journey (04:08) Understanding Career Prototypes (07:13) The Role of Storytelling in Careers (20:02) Advice for High School Students and Educators (22:34) Future of Job Market and AI

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Duration: 00:30:24
What if the Gap Year Was Actually a Launch Year? | Abby Falik
Feb 05, 2025


Mark your calendars for SXSW EDU March 3-6, 2025 in Austin, Texas, and register now at sxswedu.com. Let's work together to shape the future of education—one idea at a time.

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark interviews Abby Falik, founder of The Flight School, a transformative educational initiative aimed at high school graduates. The Flight School offers an innovative "launch year," encouraging young adults to step beyond traditional educational paths, explore personal passions, and engage in aligned work that addresses world needs. The program emphasizes experiential learning, global immersion, and sel...

Duration: 00:32:21
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Arizona
Jan 31, 2025

In today's rapidly evolving educational landscape, Arizona is pioneering a transformative approach through unbundled learning. This model breaks down traditional educational silos, integrating K-12, higher education, and workforce readiness to equip students with the skills necessary for the 21st century. By leveraging partnerships with local businesses and educational institutions, initiatives like those led by ASU Prep and the Greater Phoenix Chamber are providing students with real-world learning experiences that extend beyond the classroom. These efforts not only enhance students' academic understanding but also prepare them for future career opportunities, ensuring they are both college and career ready. As Arizona...

Duration: 00:50:28
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: New Hampshire
Jan 31, 2025

The podcast episode "New Hampshire Unbundled" explores how New Hampshire has become a leader in unbundled and competency-based learning, offering students personalized educational pathways that extend beyond traditional school environments. By embracing initiatives like the Virtual Learning Academy Charter School (VLACS) and Learn Everywhere, the state provides learners with opportunities to earn credits through real-world experiences, ranging from internships to independent projects, thus fostering a learning ecosystem that is adaptable to individual student needs and aspirations. The discussion highlights the importance of flexible learning models that prioritize student engagement and mastery over seat time, and it emphasizes the critical...

Duration: 00:46:51
Profile of an Unbundled Learning Ecosystem: Colorado
Jan 31, 2025

In Colorado, the unbundled learning movement is reshaping how education is delivered, bridging the gap between traditional schooling and real-world experiences. This initiative is driven by the need to provide students with relevant, career-connected learning opportunities that prepare them for future success. By integrating work-based learning, internships, and community projects, Colorado is fostering a learning ecosystem where students can earn credentials and develop skills directly applicable to the workforce. Organizations like Reschool Colorado, Jeffco Open School, and Colorado Succeeds are at the forefront, partnering with local businesses and communities to expand access to education beyond the classroom walls. This...

Duration: 00:46:57
What Does it Take to Make a Great Microschool Leader? | Coi Morefield
Jan 29, 2025

In this engaging episode of the Getting Smart podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews dive into the world of micro schools with Coi Morefield, the innovative founder of the Lab School of Memphis. Morefield introduces Microschool Masters, a groundbreaking platform designed to address the unique challenges of microschool education by transforming teaching teams into exceptional educators and leaders. With a focus on adult learning, Morefield emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts and sustainable practices to retain educators and decrease costly turnover. The conversation highlights how microschools, with their small, personalized settings, require a distinct approach to teacher training...

Duration: 00:24:03
Town Hall: What's Next in Learning 2025
Jan 24, 2025

The recent "What's Next in Learning 2025" Town Hall highlighted pivotal trends poised to redefine education, emphasizing the growing impact of artificial intelligence (AI), governance shifts, and literacy. AI is revolutionizing classrooms by offering personalized learning experiences but also posing challenges such as plagiarism and ethical use. The discussion underscored the need for thoughtful governance and equitable access to these technologies. Additionally, the shift from federal to localized governance offers opportunities to innovate educational goals, like Portraits of Graduates, and address declining public school enrollments with alternative models like micro-schools. Literacy, encompassing reading, media, and civic literacy, remains crucial in...

Duration: 00:39:02
Brad Leon on the BlueSky Institute and Radical Pathways at the Intersection of Health and Technology
Jan 22, 2025

In this episode, Shawnee Caruthers explores the innovative approach of the Blue Sky Institute to redefining healthcare education through its partnership with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Tennessee and East Tennessee State University. This initiative addresses workforce shortages by offering accelerated pathways that integrate technology with hands-on experience, preparing students for leadership roles in the healthcare industry. Brad Leon, the Blue Sky Institute's executive director, shares how this model ensures students graduate debt-free and fully equipped to meet the demands of the modern workforce.

The conversation highlights the importance of experiential learning, with programs like the Game...

Duration: 00:32:17
Dr. Bo Stjerne Thomsen on The Future of LEGO Education
Jan 17, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we explore LEGOs exciting new venture into science education with their latest K-8 curriculum. Tom Vander Ark chats with Bo Stjerne Thomsen, head of LEGO Education, about how this innovative, inquiry-based learning approach is set to transform classrooms by integrating hands-on science experiences aligned with NGSS standards. Designed to reignite students' curiosity and creativity, these engaging kits are perfect for fostering critical thinking and collaboration. Join us as we delve into how LEGO's playful learning strategies can make science fun and accessible, ensuring that every child can experience the joy of...

Duration: 00:23:03
Dannyelle Austin and Lisa Richardson On Catalayze: A Career-Connected Commnuity of Practice
Jan 15, 2025

In today's episode, we're diving into the transformative world of career-connected learning with two pioneers leading the charge. Joining us are Dannyelle Austin, the executive director at Launchpad, and Lisa Richardson, the project lead of Catalyze. Catalyze is dedicated to reshaping how students interact with potential career pathways by fostering a community of practice that connects educational innovation with real-world career opportunities. Since its inception, it has awarded over $14 million to numerous organizations, impacting over 65,000 students nationwide. This initiative empowers students by enhancing their agency and readiness for future careers, particularly in tech, through innovative programs like Launchpad.

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Duration: 00:31:33
Dennis "Doc" Littky on Expanding The Vision: College Unbound
Jan 08, 2025

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dennis "Doc" Littky, an educational innovator whose work with Big Picture Learning and College Unbound is reshaping the landscape of personalized and experiential education. From the inception of Big Picture Learning, which challenges conventional schooling with its "leaving to learn" model, to the founding of College Unbound, a transformative institution serving adult learners, Littky shares his journey and insights. He discusses the importance of making education relevant and personalized, with each student following their unique path. Tune in to discover how Littky's visionary approach is...

Duration: 00:30:47
Adam Kulaas on Tacoma Public Schools Being a City-Connected, Career-Connected District
Dec 18, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark delves into the innovative educational approaches of Tacoma Public Schools, highlighting their commitment to integrating college and career readiness into a unified pathway. Partnering with Tacoma, Tom speaks with Adam Kulaas, Director of Innovative Learning, who shares insights on how the district is empowering students for life readiness. The focus is on engaging learners in meaningful work today while preparing them for future opportunities through practical, real-world applications. This approach is not just about bridging the gap between education and industry but fostering a mindset that values both...

Duration: 00:29:37
Jennifer Purcell on Future Ready Oregon and a Future Ready Workforce
Dec 11, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark delves into the intricacies of workforce development and public leadership with Jennifer Purcell, the director of Future Ready Oregon. This state-level initiative represents a groundbreaking approach to aligning education and workforce systems, with a strong emphasis on equity and access. Jennifer shares insights into how Future Ready Oregon has successfully secured over $200 million in funding to support diverse learners and workers, creating pathways that connect education and high-demand career opportunities. The conversation highlights innovative programs like Workforce Navigators, which address broader needs such as transportation and childcare, ensuring...

Duration: 00:37:57
Laura Slover and Mike Flanagan on Skills for the Future
Dec 04, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, Tom Vander Ark is in conversation with Laura Slover and Mike Flanagan, focusing on the transformative initiatives in education being spearheaded by ETS and the Mastery Transcript Consortium (MTC). The discussion gets into the Skills for the Future initiative, emphasizing the shift from traditional education models towards competency-based education that aligns with the demands of a rapidly evolving workforce. This initiative, a collaboration between ETS and the Carnegie Foundation, seeks to broaden educational goals beyond conventional academics to include essential skills like communication, critical thinking, and civic engagement. By embedding innovative...

Duration: 00:32:21
Competency-Based Education on the Getting Smart Podcast
Nov 27, 2024

In the podcast episode featuring Laurie Gagnon, the focus is on the transformative potential of Competency-Based Education (CBE) in reshaping K-12 learning environments. Laurie discusses how CBE moves away from traditional seat-time-based models, emphasizing mastery of skills and knowledge at an individualized pace. This approach not only personalizes learning but also aligns with the Aurora Institute's vision of equitable education. By centering on explicit, measurable learning objectives, CBE empowers students to take charge of their educational journeys, promoting a deeper, more engaged form of learning. Laurie highlights examples of districts successfully implementing CBE, showcasing practical applications and the systemic...

Duration: 00:32:43
Danny Martin on Esposure
Nov 20, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Victoria Andrews takes us into the transformative world of eSports alongside Danny Martin, co-founder and CEO of eSposure. With eSports growing into a $250 billion industry, it's more than just competitive gaming; it's a thriving ecosystem that fosters community, teaches valuable workforce skills, and opens pathways to entrepreneurship. Victoria shares how eSports has redefined the way students engage with education, offering opportunities for personal and professional growth. Danny talks about how programs like eSposure are bridging gaps, particularly for economically disadvantaged communities, by integrating technology and innovation into learning experiences.

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Duration: 00:33:13
Dr. Tim Dasey on Wisdom Factories and Turning the Educational Model Upside Down
Nov 13, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Tim Dasey delve into the multifaceted impact of AI on education, exploring both the challenges and opportunities it presents. As AI becomes a larger part of various educational contexts, it prompts a reevaluation of traditional teaching methods and calls for the creation of new strategies to ensure students are prepared for an AI-driven world. Tim Dasey, drawing on his extensive experience in AI and education, emphasizes the need to shift from rote memorization to experiential learning approaches that foster critical thinking, adaptability, and problem-solving skills. This...

Duration: 00:38:57
Dr. Christopher Emdin and Sam Seidel on From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood
Nov 06, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers gets into a profound discussion with Dr. Christopher Emdin and Sam Seidel about their latest work, "From White Folks Who Teach in the Hood." This conversation is essential for educators who are ready to challenge their own biases and rethink their roles in marginalized communities. Emdin and Seidel explore the importance of cultural competency and equity in education, asking educators to not only impart academic knowledge but also to create inclusive environments where all students feel seen and valued. They emphasize the need for educators to become agents of...

Duration: 00:34:38
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Accessibility
Oct 30, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews dive into the world of microschools, exploring how these small, adaptive learning environments are making education more accessible and equitable. The conversation touches on the different strategies employed by micro school leaders across the country, emphasizing their commitment to overcoming challenges like financial barriers and geographic limitations. Through real-world examples, listeners gain insight into how microschools are expanding their reach through unique funding models, education savings accounts, and community partnerships that ensure inclusivity for all students, regardless of their background.

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Duration: 00:38:31
Zoe Weil on The Solutionary Way
Oct 23, 2024

Project Lead the Way is a proven national leader in science, technology, engineering, and math education, for Pre-K through high school. They strive to help teachers make every student in every grade STEM-successful, through interactive, problem-based learning. Learn more and find a school with Project Lead The Way near you.

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we learn about "The Solutionary Way" with Zoe Weil, co-founder and president of the Institute for Humane Education. Zoe discusses her innovative approach to education that exceeds older problem-solving by integrating ethical considerations to ensure actions do the MOST...

Duration: 00:29:45
John Watson and Mawi Asgedom on Creating Innovative Experiences and Belonging for Adult Learners
Oct 16, 2024

In this podcast episode, Victoria Andrews gets into the transformative power of community in education. Joined by John Watson and Mawi Asgedom, the three discuss how fostering a sense of belonging and inclusion can lead to innovative learning environments. John Watson, the CEO of Evergreen Education Group, highlights the importance of creating spaces like the Digital Learning Annual Conference (DLAC) where educators can connect, share challenges, and learn from each other. This community-centric approach has helped educators overcome the isolation often felt in digital and hybrid learning environments.

Mawi, author and CEO of...

Duration: 00:30:34
Nevada's State Portrait of a Learner
Oct 09, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we are joined by an inspiring lineup of educational leaders who are at the forefront of transforming Nevada's educational landscape. Our guests are Jhone Ebert, Nevada's State Superintendent, and Jeanine Collins, Chief Innovation Officer at Ed Extraordinary. They discuss their pivotal roles in the creation and implementation of Nevada's State Portrait of a Learner. Alongside them, Brently Garbutt, Principal of Jerome Mack Middle School, and Claire Romzek, Magnet Coordinator at Lied STEM Academy, share firsthand experiences of how this is already reshaping learning environments and empowering students across the...

Duration: 00:32:46
Voices of Small Schools Podcast: Scalability
Oct 02, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart podcast, hosts Jordan Luster and Victoria Andrews talk to Desiree Corbin of Mindsprout Montessori, Tiffany Blasingame of the Ferguson School, Kenesha Skaggs of SOAR Academy, Coi Morefield of The Lab School of Memphis, Amar Kumar of KaiPod, and Julia Bamba from the Issaquah School District. Together.

The conversation explores the opportunities and challenges of scaling microschools, highlighting different models and success stories. The hosts and their guests discuss both decentralized and centralized approaches to scaling, touching on the importance of community-based, personalized learning experiences. The episode...

Duration: 00:36:08
Rachelle Dené Poth on How to Teach AI
Sep 25, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark speaks with Rachelle Dené Poth, an esteemed educator, author, and ed tech expert, about the integration of AI in education. Rachelle shares insights from her latest book, How to Teach AI: Weaving Strategies and Activities into Any Content Area, highlighting the importance of using AI to enhance language learning and foster innovation among students. They discuss the evolving landscape of education with AI tools like Google Translate and ChatGPT, the critical need for professional development to keep up with emerging technologies, and the potential of AI to transform b...

Duration: 00:32:52
Carolyn Weir on Philanthropies as Intermediaries and a Radical 13th Year Promise
Sep 18, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Shawnee Caruthers is joined by Carolyn Weir, Executive Director of the McClure Foundation, discussing Vermont's innovative Free Degree Promise. This initiative offers accelerated, debt-free pathways to post-secondary education, particularly benefiting students from rural and underserved communities. Carolyn shares insights on the successes and challenges of implementing such programs, the importance of partnerships, and how these efforts are shaping the future of education and workforce readiness. Tune in to learn how Vermont is leading the way in creating equitable and sustainable opportunities for all students.

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(00:00) Introduction and the...

Duration: 00:34:24
Kyle Wagner on 12 Shifts for Student-Centered Environments
Sep 11, 2024

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by project-based learning (PBL) advocate Kyle Wagner to delve into the transformative power of PBL in creating student-centered environments. Kyle shares his journey from visiting innovative schools like High Tech High to becoming a global ambassador for PBL. They discuss how these educational models foster creativity, agency, and purpose among students, and explore the broader implications for education systems worldwide. Whether you're an educator, administrator, or parent, this episode provides valuable insights into how project-based learning can reshape the future of education. Tune in to learn...

Duration: 00:38:45
Town Hall: Back to School with AI
Sep 04, 2024

This town hall discussion focuses on the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) into the education system, particularly in K-12 settings. Nate McClennen leads this riveting conversation with featured speakers such as Wes Kriesel, Kunal Dalal, and Jerry Almendarez. Listen in as the discuss the growing use of AI tools among students and educators, highlighting the importance of understanding AI's role in education.

The speakers discuss various aspects of AI, including its potential to augment human intelligence and the need to focus on uniquely human competencies in the face of technological advancements. They also emphasize the significance of...

Duration: 00:46:45